Iigundane zivakaliswe nguPhil Matarese kunye noMike Luciano kwi Izilwanyana .HBO
Into yokuqala ekufuneka uyazi ngayo Izilwanyana. , Owona mboniso upholileyo we-HBO ekusenokwenzeka ukuba awuzange uve ngawo, kukuba ayinguye wonke umntu. Ukudibanisa oopopayi abaphantsi kuhlahlo-lwabiwo mali kunye noludwe lwamagama e-A (kubandakanya uJessica Chastain, A $ AP Rocky, Robert Morse, Aziz Ansari, Nick Kroll, John Lovitz, Kurt Vile kunye noWayne Brothers, phakathi ezininzi, ezinye ezininzi ) kuthotho lwe-anthology ephuculweyo, ephuculweyo malunga nezidalwa ezahlukeneyo zaseNew York (phakathi kwazo iigundane, iikati, izinja kunye nemibungu); Izilwanyana. ngekhe ibhenele kwisihlwele esiqhelekileyo esingekaxutywanga ziikhathuni zonqulo ezifana UBojack Horseman kwaye URick kunye noMorty . Nangona Izilwanyana. eyaqala ukuboniswa kwi-HBO ngo-11: 30 P.M. Nge-5 kaFebruwari (ngolwesiHlanu) -inokuvela ngexesha elinokufundwa njengelibulalayo kuthotho olucothayo, ixesha lasebusuku eline-slot ngokuqinisekileyo zilungile ngakumbi Izilwanyana. ngu; ukugcwalisa mhlawumbi enye yeengxelo zokugqibela zenkqubo yeendawo ezifileyo engekaqinisekiswa ngokuDada kwabantu abadala.
Kuba Izilwanyana. ngumabonakude ezinzulwini zobusuku. Izilwanyana. yi-D.I.Y. njenge Mka . Izilwanyana. Iliwa lepunk. Kwaye ibali elibonisa ukuba umboniso wenziwe njani kwindawo yokuqala lingaphezulu IVinyl Ngaphezu kwekhulu le-snot-wads ka-Bobby Cannavale. Kwaye ibali lendlela Izilwanyana. ungene kumabonwakude kwindawo yokuqala ngumnwe ophakathi oyisayo kwindlela yesiko yokwenza izinto.
UMike Luciano noPhil Matarese babesebenza kwinkampani yentengiso eNew York xa beza noluvo lokuba Izilwanyana . Imbali ithi aba babini baphazanyiswa lihobe kumda wesakhiwo sabo, kwaye baqala ukuhlekisa kwibali malunga nalo. Kungekudala, yayiluchungechunge lwewebhu, olwavakaliswa ngabo bobabini abafana kwaye lwenziwa luLuciano. Bawungenisile umsebenzi wabo kuMnyhadala weTelevishini waseNew York ngo-2013, apho wabamba khona iso le-indie darling kwaye Izilwanyana. 'Umvelisi olawulayo uMark Duplass. UDuplass – owathi, kunye nomntakwabo uJay banceda ekufumaneni intshukumo yeMumblecore kwifilimu, ekhokelela ekuvuseleleni kohlahlo-lwabiwo mali olungephi, olungeyiyo studio olwavelisa imiboniso bhanyabhanya ezimeleyo-ehlawulelwa la madoda mabini ukuba aye nayo eLos Angeles. I-Rolodex yabahlobo abadumileyo ukuba bavakalise uthotho. Ukurhweba ixesha elifanelekileyo kunye nemali ngaphambili (ungakhankanyi isiqinisekiso sokuba nayiphi na inethiwekhi okanye iqonga lokuhambisa liya kuba nomdla ) kulawulo olupheleleyo lokuyila uthotho lwabo, uLuciano noMatarese bavelisa iziqendu ezibini zokuqala kwaye bazikhumbuza ngeeDuplass eSundance ngoJanuwari 2015, apho yathathwa ngokukhawuleza yiHBO kwisivumelwano sexesha ezimbini. (I-HBO ikwalikhaya lenkqubo yeDuplass evelisiweyo Indibano .)
Sithethile noNksk. U-Luciano kunye no-Matarese malunga nendlela ulinge lwabo olucekeceke lweekhathuni oluye lwaphela ngayo kweyona ndawo iphambili yothungelwano, ukwamkelwa kwayo okubalulekileyo ukuza kuthi ga ngoku nokusukela iphupha.
Umjongi : Nina bantu benisebenza ngokusisigxina eNew York xa nisenza iividiyo zewebhu Izilwanyana . Ugqibe nini kwaye uthathe njani isigqibo sokuba ingaba yile nto ufuna ukungena kuyo yonke okanye hayi?
UMike Luciano: Ngokwenyani sithathe umnxeba we-Skype kunye noMarko kwikhabhathi yethu xa besisebenza kule arhente yentengiso. Yayiyimbewu nje yombono wakhe wokwenza ixesha ngokuzimeleyo ... uyazi, wayengenakuqinisekisa ukuba siza kuphelela naphi na, ngokwenene. Kodwa yena unakho Ukuqinisekisa ukuba siza kwenza iziqendu ezilishumi zalo mboniso nabo bonke aba bantu bakhulu athe wanxulumana nabo, kwaye siza kuba nomboniso wokuyila opheleleyo.
Kwaye thina, siyenzile-uPhil kunye nam-ngokwenyani sobabini. Ke ibivakalelwa ngathi yeyona ndlela ibambekayo yokuqhubeka yayikukuba nesambrela sokuyila sikaMarko noJay esivumela ukuba sibonakalise umboniso ngohlobo lweendlela ezisezantsi. Kwakungekho oku uxinzelelo : Sivunyelwe ukuba sizifumanele umboniso size sigqibe ngokuhamba komsebenzi okusebenze kakuhle. Ke xa kwafika loo ntsingiselo, yayiphantse yangabinangqondo.
Umjongi : Ukwenza umboniso wakho kamabonwakude ongabonwayo kwinethiwekhi? Sebenzisa imodeli yokwenza ifilimu ezimeleyo ukufaka isicelo somboniso woopopayi? Ewe, oko kuvakala ngathi akukho-brainer.
UPhil Matarese : Kwaye kwakungekho mfuneko yokuba silinde nathi. Mna noMike, sifuna umthwalo omncinci womsebenzi. Sifuna ukulwa nentaba enkulu yezinto zokwenza. Kwaye kwavakala ngathi yeyona nto ikhawulezayo leyo, nangona yayiqhuba kwilizwe liphela kwaye ihamba. Sahlala esofeni zabahlobo bethu kunye nokuqhushumba ibhedi iinyanga ezimbini.
Umjongi : Ngaba nina bantu ninamava amanye kumabonwakude?
UMatarese : Le yinto [yethu yokuqala] yokuqala. Ngokwenene lixesha elifanelekileyo lokuba singobani ngoku, nokuba ingumculo okanye iziqhulo okanye nantoni na eyenye. Sisoloko sisithi Okukhona uyila into yakho uwedwa, kokuncinci ukuba nabani na onokuba nayo kuyo. Siyazi ukuba umboniso wethu kunzima ukuwufaka: ngumboniso wesiketshi, umlomo awushukumi, kwaye uphantsi ... kodwa ungcolile ngokwenene. Sasazi ukuba kufuneka siyenze kwaye siyibonise abantu ukuze baqonde, Oo, le yinto.
Ukuba ufuna into yakho ibe yinto yakho, yenze into yakho. -UPhil Matarese
Okukhona uyifaka kwinto yakho, kokukhona usenza lo mfanekiso uqingqiweyo, kwaye kuncinci abanokuwusika kuwo. Xa sisikripthi nje okanye into elolo hlobo, banokuyitolika ngokwahlukileyo, kwaye bazame ukuyichaphazela ukuba ibe yile nto bafuna ukuba yiyo. Kwaye ngamanye amaxesha kulungile, kodwa ubukhulu becala: Ukuba ufuna into yakho ibe yinto yakho, yenze into yakho.
Umjongi : Ingene njani i-HBO kwaye ibe yintoni impendulo yabo ukuza kuthi ga ngoku?
ULuciano : Bayayithanda, kwaye ngokwenene bebesemva kwayo, ebiyinto entle kakhulu. Bathathe nje ingqondo ngayo, kwaye banengqondo yokuba ixesha liqhubeke nabantu abalifumanayo.
UMatarese : Bangena ebhodini emva kweSundance, eyayiyinto yethu yokuqala enkulu kuzo zonke ezi nethiwekhi kunye nezinto. Zaziziqendu ezibini ezigqityiweyo; besine-V.O. kwitoti, ezinye iibhodi zamabali, izikripthi ezilishumi, ibhayibhile yokubonisa kunye noMark noJay kunye nathi egumbini sincokola nabo. Ke sibanikile ixesha lonyaka: sithe Oku kuzakuba njalo. Ungayithatha okanye ungayishiya. Ndiyabulela kuThixo, bayithathile.
Umjongi : Ke kuthekani ngokuthatha ngamanye amaxesha onyaka?
ULuciano : Ewe, basithengele amaxesha amabini. Ke siyayibhala ngoku. Kuyonwabisa, kumnandi ngokwenene ukuqala kwisizini entsha kunye nelibali elitsha. Isiqendu esitsha sebali lomntu sokudibanisa konke.
UMatarese : Yinto eyoyikisayo ngoku, kuba besinabantu abangama-50 abasebenza kulo mboniso, kodwa ngoku nguMike nam kuphela. Senza uhlobo lokuqonda… singenza nantoni na esiyifunayo. Kuyamangalisa ukuba kule ndawo yenkqubo yokuyila kwakhona. Kuvakala ukuba kulungile.
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Umjongi : Xa ndandibukele Izilwanyana. , ingcinga yam yokuqala ibikukundikhumbuza ngalonto URick kunye noMorty isiqendu Imizuzu engama-60 kunye neentengiso eziphakathi kwamacala. Kanye loo mbono ophuculweyo wencoko kwiichungechunge ze-animated unokufutshane ukujikeleza ingqondo yombukeli. Ngaba bayayenza yonke le nto? Bahlala njani macala onke?
UPhil Matarese: Kulungile umboniso wethu ngu zilungisiwe. Mna noMike sibhala iphepha le-12-15 lemiba yeziqendu; ukubetha nje sifuna ukubetha. Imigca embalwa apha okanye apho. Kodwa ubukhulu becala, sizisa wonke umntu okuloo ndawo kunye… sonke siyarekhoda kwigumbi elinye.
Umjongi : Oko akuqhelekanga, akunjalo? Ngaba uninzi loopopayi alurekhodwa nabantu bodwa eminqubeni?
UMatarese : Yi! Luhlobo lwangaphandle. Abantu esinabo kumboniso abenza oopopayi abaninzi, emva kokuba sisonge, baya kuthi Oko kwakumnandi kakhulu kwaye andazi ukuba kutheni singasoloko sisenza ngale ndlela. Ngenxa yokuba unezona mphuculo zibalaseleyo apho, kwaye ufuna ukuba benze eyona nto bayenzayo.
Umjongi : Thetha kancinci malunga nokwamkelwa kothotho.
UMike Luciano: Besisoloko sazi ukuba ngulo mboniso ungaqhelekanga onokulingana epokothweni yeliphi na ikhaya elinokuba nalo. Sasisazi ukuba ayizukuba yile nto abantu baya kuyicinga ngomboniso ogqwayizayo, yiyo loo nto sasisoloko siyithanda kwaye siyithathela ingqalelo. Kungenxa yokuba waziva eyahlukileyo. Yiloo nto ebesiyi-draw kuthi, ke yintoni eyona nto imnandi kukubona, abantu abayithandayo? Ngokwenene, bayayithanda.
Ngabantu abadala! Singatsho! Abantu abadala abathandayo abawuthandi umboniso wethu kuba bazizidenge.
UMatarese : Kwaye ngento enje, awufuni kuphelela embindini kakhulu. Ukupasa / ukusilela!
ULuciano : Yitsho, lonto Ezahlukeneyo inqaku , loo mntu akazange ayifumane. Kwakungekho kubo, ubuncinane kwiziqendu ezintlanu abazibonayo. Kodwa emva koko ubona into efana neFlash Films, eyibiza ngokuba yeyona nto inomdla kwaye yahlukile kumabonwakude. Kukho indlala yoku, kwaye ayisiyiyo kuphela eyona nto iphambili, abagxeki kwindawo enye…
UMatarese : Ngabantu abadala! Singatsho! Abantu abadala abathandayo abawuthandi umboniso wethu kuba bazizidenge. Babengenazo iiselfowuni kwisikolo samabanga aphakamileyo njengam. Banomona kuba babengenazo ii-iPod.
Umjongi : Uneselfowuni kwisikolo samabanga aphakamileyo?
UMatarese : Ewe, kulungile… junior kunye nonyaka ophezulu.
ULuciano : Kube mnandi ngokwenene ukubona abantu bebhala ngayo kwimidiya yoluntu. Ngalo lonke ixesha kubhalwa ngayo kuTwitter okanye kuFacebook, ngabantu abayifumanayo kwaye bahamba ngathi Oh nkosi yam, kufuneka ubukele Izilwanyana . Izilwanyana. ngumboniso wam omtsha endiwuthandayo.
UMatarese : Iqhutywa ngokwenyani emathunjini. Abantu abathanda, ngokwenene yinto yangaphakathi enzima kakhulu ukuyibala. Kodwa bayayithanda, kwaye bafuna ukuxelela abantu ngayo. Yiyiphi into enhle, kuba sihlobo lomboniso wemfihlo. Sikubonisa ongekakuboni, nge-11: 30 ngolwesiHlanu.
Umjongi : Ewe ikwayile nto bendizibuza yona: ngaba i-HBO ikhe yabeka umboniso-okanye i-semi-scripted-show hayi ngobusuku bangeCawa? Inomdla.
UMatarese : Bekunomdla nakuthi. Kodwa uyazi, siyazi ukuba singoobani: siyazi ukuba siyinto engaqhelekanga kwaye sinethemba lokuba abantu bayayibukela ngelixa bedlala ngaphambi kokuba baphume.
Umjongi: Okanye ubukele kwi-HBOGo, njengalo lonke ihlabathi.
UMatarese : Kulungile ewe, kwaye yinto enkulu leyo nayo. Umboniso wethu uphuma kusuku olungaphambi kolo; Iqala ngobuchwephesha ngoLwesine kwiHBOGo. Sifana nje nomboniso ongaqhelekanga! Yonke imiba yomboniso wethu iyamangalisa kwaye ithatha inkcazo. Njengaye, ndiye ndafumanisa ukuba kukho ifayile ye- Izilwanyana. Ukuhanjiswa kwakhona !
Umjongi : Kwaye nina nino Uluhlu lokudlala lweSpotify ?
ULuciano : Siya! Nguwo wonke umculo womboniso.
UMatarese : Ayinayo yonke into, endikhathazayo.
Umjongi : Ukwenza iskripthi esiphucukileyo, ichaphazela njani imeko yezinto?
UMatarese : Kulungile uMike uhlela zonke iaudiyo ezantsi ukusuka kwiiseshoni eziphuculweyo. Ke sinokuba nomzobo oza kuthi uphele uyimizuzu emithathu kumabonwakude, kodwa mhlawumbi sinalo ilixa lezinto eziphuculweyo. Leyo yeyona steez iphambili kaMike, uyihlela phantsi. Yiyo eyona nto iphambili kuthi, okokuqala nokuphambili: ukufumana irediyo edlalwa phantsi yimizuzu engama-22 okanye engama-28 ubude. Yinguqulelo nje yeaudio yesiqendu, kwaye ayitshintshi emva koko, kuba ukuba uqala ukongeza izinto okanye ukungqubana nezinto kakhulu, iibhodi zamabali kunye nokuvimba kuyavutha.
Ke simane siyitshixa ezantsi kanye kwi-bat. Kufanele si. Sinaye wonke umntu kwiiseshoni ngokwazo kwaye asinakho ukubabuyisa. Inolu hlobo lokunyanzelwa kuyo: Inye kwaye yenziwe. Senza iziqendu ezipheleleyo, zebali le-A kwisiqwengana esinye. Kwisiqendu sesithandathu besinoLauren Lapkus, Horatio Sanz, Mitch Hurwitz, mna, Mike noMeghan O'Neill estudiyo kangangeeyure ezine… asinakubabuyisa abo bantu! Ke kufuneka sibaleke siyidubule.
Kwaye kuyavakala! Ivakala ukulunga okuhle ukwenza oko. Uyikhuphe nje, kwaye inamandla; obo bomi bokuphefumla kuyo ngeziqendu.
Ndingathanda ukuba loo nto ibe yindawo yokuthatha abantu abaninzi… umbono nje wokuba akufuneki ucele imvume yokwenza izinto.
Umjongi : Lingxama kangakanani ixesha lokujika phakathi kokurekhoda nokudlalisa?
UMatarese : Kunzima ukuxelela kuba le nto inkulu egxadazelayo. Sisebenza kwiaudiyo yesiqendu 7 ngelixa sikumbala opheleleyo wesiqendu 2. Kwakufana neenyanga ezilithoba ukwenza iziqendu ezisibhozo.
Umjongi : Yeyiphi ekhawulezayo ngenene yoopopayi.
UMatarese : Yi! Kungenxa yokuba siyigcine ubukhulu becala isendlini apha kwiStarburns Studio. Siyasondeza; Ndihleli phantsi kunye nee-animators, ndihleli phantsi kwaye ndigqitha kuyo yonke into. UMike wenza iaudiyo kwaye uhleli nomfana wethu ongumhleli. Ujikeleza nje iipleyiti ezininzi.
Ihlobo likaMike kunye nam sisihogo. Ndiyavuya ngayo, kodwa ndinoloyiko ngayo. Ukwazi ukuba bekuyintoni… kuyothusa. Sisoloko siyibiza ngokuba yintaba yomsebenzi. Kufuneka uqhubeke uzityhala kuyo, kwaye ekugqibeleni uyazi ukuba iza kwenziwa. Nokuba kwenzeka ntoni, kufuneka senze iziqendu ezilishumi.
Umjongi : Ndiva ngathi oku kuyinkuthazo kuye nabani na ofuna ukusebenza kumabonwakude.
Matarese: Ndingathanda ukuba loo nto ibe yinto yokuthatha abantu abaninzi. Ngaphandle komboniso ngokwawo, kwaye uyonwabele njengeqhekeza leendaba, yingcinga nje yokuba akufuneki ucele imvume yokwenza izinto. Ungahlala nje eflethini kunye nabahlobo bakho kwaye nisebenze kwinto ethile ebusuku nangeempelaveki kwaye nenze into. Ndingathanda ukuba loo nto ibe ngumyalezo, okanye inxenye yento ephuma kule nto, yokuba abantu bayisuse kuyo.
Ndiyakhumbula xa ndandisekholejini, ukubona Ekuhlaleni noDan Harmon, olohlobo lwasemva-kwe-into okokuqala ngqa; Ukuqonda ukuba kukho imbaleki yokubonisa kwaye imve ethetha phandle malunga nokujongana neenethiwekhi. Kwakukhuthaza. Kukwenza uqaphele ukuba uninzi lwezi zinto lwalukhona ungazi kwanto ngazo. Khange ndibenalo nofifi malunga nokubhalwa kweTV kude kube, andazi… ndandimdala ngokupheleleyo.
Sisoloko sinoluvo lothando lokuba mna noMike sihlala sinxiba iimaski kwaye siba semva kwezigcawu. Besingayi kwenza iipodcast okanye nantoni na enjalo! Kodwa uyazi, i-fucking iziva ilungile ukuxelela abantu ngayo. Ndiyathemba ukuba ubenze baxakeke malunga nomboniso wethu kuphela, kodwa izinto zabo; ubomi babo.
