Iiarhente ze-DEA ekuzingeleni uPablo Escobar, uEl Chapo, kunye nokuchaneka kweNetflix's 'Narcos'

UPedro Pascal njengoJavier Peña kunye noBoyd Holbrook njengoSteve Murphy INarcos. (UDaniel Daza / iNetflix)

Nangona bengengawo amaqabane asemthethweni ukusukela ngo-1994, akukho nzima ukulinganisa ubudlelwane phakathi kwama-Agents e-DEA uJavier Peña kunye no-Steve Murphy-Mnu.Peña uthule, ucinga ngakumbi, Mnu. . Xa ndadibana nabo egumbini labo kwihotele i-San Carlos e-Upper East Side, la madoda mabini awazange abonakale engoyiki. Ukuba ubabona esitratweni, ngekhe ubenomfanekiso-ngqondweni we-Netflix omkhulu osekela uthotho lweziqendu ezilishumi ebomini babo.

Kodwa ke uqala ukuva amabali abo. Bobabini uMnu Murphy kunye noMnu Peña babeyinxalenye ye-Bloc yoKhangelo, iqela elingaqhelekanga laseColombia elenziwa ngonyaka we-1992 ukuzingela umrhwebi weziyobisi uPablo Escobar. Ngeli xesha umhlaba wawungazi nokuba makenze ntoni ngo-Escobar, owayenokuthi ngexesha lakhe abonwe njengomsindisi weRobin Hood-esque kunye nombulali, ngalo lonke ixesha esenza Uluhlu lweForbes International Billionaire . Ezantsi, u-Escobar kunye noMedellin Cartel wakhe bafaka umbono wokurhweba ngokuthengisa imveliso yecocaine, ethe ekugqibeleni yafikelela kunxweme lwaseMiami. Kwiminyaka ekhokelela ekuvalelweni kuka-Escobar e Icawa enkulu , kunye neenyanga ezili-18 ezinobundlobongela ezibalekileyo, uMurphy noPeña badlala iindawo zabo ukuzingela nokumisa inkosi enamandla kunazo zonke emhlabeni.

Ngo-2013, umvelisi olawulayo u-Eric Newman wabiza uMnu Murphy ukuba axoxe ngombono awayenawo, umboniso weTV malunga nokuzingelwa kuka-Escobar owawuza kugxila ngokukodwa kuMurphy nasePeña. Kwiminyaka emibini kamva, iNetflix isetelwe ukukhupha zonke iziqendu ezilishumi ze INarcos ngolwesiHlanu olandelayo, noBoyd Holbrook edlala uSteve Murphy kunye Imidlalo yeethrone 'UPedro Pascal njengoJavier Peña. Oko kwaqala njengengxoxo noMnu. Murphy kunye noMnu Pena malunga nalo mboniso wajika waba yingxelo yokuqala yezona zihlandlo zobundlobongela kwimbali yoluntu, kwaye into esiyenzayo ephosakeleyo ukuqinisekisa ukuba ayenzeki kwakhona .

Umjongi : Nina ningabacebisi bezobuchwephesha INarcos . Kuquka ntoni oko?

USteve: Uhlawulo [uhleka] Hayi, basibiza ngemibuzo. Nje ukuba siligqibe lonke ibali, ukufunwa okupheleleyo. Njengoko bebeqala ukubhala kwaye baqale ukwenza imiboniso bhanyabhanya, baya kubiza bathi 'kulungile, loluphi uhlobo lwezixhobo onalo ngelo xesha? Babephethe ntoni abantu abalungileyo? Babephethe ntoni ababi? Uyenza njani into yokugada? Ubaphatha njani abo banolwazi? '

Ixesha lokuqala uPedro [Pascal] waziswa kwi INarcos njengoJavier, [ingxelo kaBoyd Holbrook] ithi 'nantsi impundu.'

UJavier: [ehleka] Ndiyathetha, sibaxelele ibali. Sibaxelele iinyani zento eyenzekileyo. Kukho abantu, okuyinyani, endandingavani nabo kwindlu yozakuzo. Ngokukodwa abantu be-CIA, andizange ndibe nexesha elide nabo. Ke basebenzisa ezinye zazo.

USteve, xa wawusebenza eMiami, ngaba icocaine sele ithatha indawo? Zeziphi iimpawu zokuqala?

Steve: Indawo yayisele ivulekile. Kwakungeyonto ingaqhelekanga ukufumana imizimba emininzi kwimibhobho yeemoto phantse yonke imihla. Ityala lokuqala ndasebenza kulo - bendisebenza e-ofisini yamapolisa iminyaka eli-11 enesiqingatha ngaphambi kokuba ndiye e-DEA, ke eyona cocaine inkulu endakha ndayibona ngexesha elinye yayizii-ounces ezimbini. Ityala lokuqala endasebenza kulo njenge-DEA, ndaya kwiiTurks naseCaicos Islands.Ibali elifutshane, abantu ababi babhabha nge-4 kilos yecocaine evela eCuba. Ukusuka kwii-ounces ezi-2 ukuya kwii-4 kilos, ndandifana 'nenkomo engcwele' kwaye oko kwakusisiqalo nje. Elona tyala likhulu endigqibele kulo ndilisebenza, sabamba i-500 kilos.

Xa udlulisela eColombia kwaye nina baba ngamaqabane kuqala, zithini izimvo zakho zokuqala zomnye nomnye?

USteve: Nayiphi na iofisi oya kuyo kwaye ufumane iqabane elitsha, niyathandana. Kodwa nawe uhlala ugcina omnye nomnye kubude beengalo kancinci ukuze ubone 'kulungile, ngaba lo mfo uza kuba ngumsebenzi okanye i-slug? Ngaba lo mfo uphume apha ukuza kwenza iimeko, okanye ulapha nje ufuna ukuhlawulwa ingozi kunye nokunyuselwa kwangethuba? '

Ndabe ndiseColombia kuphela malunga neentsuku ezintathu xa u-Escobar wanikezela kwintolongo yakhe eyakhiwe ngokwesiko. Kum, bendisazi ukuba ngubani u-Escobar, kodwa kwakunomdla ukubukela aba bafana kuba babesebenza ngeempundu kwaye ngesiquphe ndiyakubona oku kudana, phantse ludandatheko. Kwaye andizange ndikuqonde ngelo xesha, kodwa ndakhawuleza ndafunda ukuba aba bafana babenikele ubomi babo ekusukeleni lo mfo. Kwaye ke irhuluneli yaseColombia imvumela ukuba azinikezele kule ntolongo yakhiwe ngokwesiko.

Javier, kwakunjani ukudana?

Javier: Ndafika eColombia ngo-88, ekuphakameni kokhangelo lwe-Escobar. Kwaye kwakubakho ixesha apho kwabakho ukubulawa kwabantu okuninzi, ukubulawa kwamapolisa, iibhombu zemoto. Ukuzinikezela kwakhe yayikukuchitha nje… ngenxa yawo onke amapolisa awayewabulele. Kuya kufuneka uqonde, ukukhangela u-Escobar yayikukuziphindezela. Kwakungahambi emva kwedope, yayingahambi emva kwemali. Yayiyimpindezelo nje ngenxa yawo onke amapolisa awayewabulele, kunye nabo bonke abantu abamsulwa. Xa wanikezela, yayingathi siphulukene naye. Kwafa amapolisa amaninzi alungileyo. Baninzi abantu abamsulwa. Ukuqweqwedisa kwaba zizinto eziqhelekileyo. Abafana ababini ngesithuthuthu, yindlela ababulala ngayo abantu abaninzi.

USteve: Kwaye amapolisa akakwazanga ukufikelela kwiikhilomitha ezimbini zentolongo.

UJavier: U-Escobar wayenobukroti bokuhambisa amaphecana kweli lizwe ngakwintolongo ethi 'ukuba ubona into ekrokrisayo, tsalela le nombolo.'

Uye wahlangabezana njani nolu luvo lusoloko lukhona lobungozi? Ngaba luhlobo nje lokungathethi phakathi kwawo wonke umntu owayelapho?

Javier: Into endinokuyixelela abantu ‘lixesha elingalunganga, indawo engalunganga.’ Kwakukho iibhombu zemoto ezilishumi ukuya kwishumi elinesihlanu mihla le. I-Bloc yokuKhangela yayenziwe ngabafana abafanayo ababesenza imisebenzi kunye nabantu abakrelekrele kwiimpahla ezingenanto. Kodwa wonke umntu uyazi ukuba ungubani. Sasiphuma sive abaza kuqhawuka, kwaye kuhlala kukho iibhombu zemoto. Kwakukho ityhefu kwiholo lokudlela. U-Escobar wayenamapolisa amdaka awayezomxelela ngale nto siyenzayo.

Steve: Ibingu kuhle ixesha. Ungayichazanga eyokuba bekukho i-300,000 yexabiso lentengo kuyo nayiphi na iarhente ye-DEA.

Ngaba ubusazi ngexabiso lelo xesha lonke?

USteve: Ewe, ewe. Umfazi wam wasongela ngokungena ngemali izihlandlo ezininzi.

UJavier: Kwakungangaphi amapolisa onokuwabulala ngosuku.

USteve: Into ebuhlungu kukuba, ukuba iphoyisa eliqhelekileyo leyunifuthi ixabiso lentloko li- $ 100. Babunjalo ke ubomi obuphantsi apho. Kwaye ayisiyiyo yokuba sibabone ngokugqithileyo, ayifani nokuba besingoyiki. Kodwa izivamvo zakho ziphakanyisiwe, kwaye uyazi ngakumbi okwenzekayo okukujikelezile. Kukho amaxesha apho sasiza kubhabha kwezi gunship - kwaye ndifumene i-9 millimeter pistol yam kwaye aba bantu bafumana imipu yabo emide nayo yonke into, kwaye ndinxibe ijini eblowu kunye nezihlangu zetennis. Kwaye umphathi-mkhosi ujonge kuwe kwaye uthi ‘Steve, mna nawe, mnyango wangaphambili.’ Kwaye kufana, ‘kulungile.’ Uyazi kakuhle okwenzekayo kukujikelezile. Asizange sivumele uloyiko lulawule izenzo zethu.

UJavier: Ukuqala kwam ukuya eMedellin, ndacholwa ngamapolisa amalunga nesihlanu. Kwaye babenjengo ‘Javier, uphi umpu wakho?’ Kwaye ndabaxelela ukuba ikulo holster. Kwaye bathi ‘khupha kakuhle!’ Bendingakuqhelanga ukuqhuba ujikeleze umpu wakho emathangeni akho.

USteve: Kodwa ukwahlula okwesibini kunokusindisa ubomi bakho.

Ngexesha lokuzingelwa kukaPablo, kukangaphi 'usondele' ngokumbethelela?

UJavier: Ekuqaleni sasinomphathi ongenamandla, ndimele nditsho, kwaye simkhumbula amaxesha amaninzi. Emva kokuba ezinikezele, ngokusisiseko [I-Bloc yokuKhangela] yachithwa. Kwaye emva kokuba eqhweshile, kwakungathi ‘asinawo amapolisa afanelekileyo okumlandela.’ Ngokusisiseko sabeka iqela kwakhona, sangenisa onke amapolisa okuqala awayemlandela okokuqala. Nje ukuba sibuyise abafana bokuqala, senze isihogo somsebenzi. Saqala ukubamba, sabulala bonke abo sasinxulumana nabo. Le ngcamango ayisetyenziswanga eMexico, okwangoku. Khange sivele silandele u-Escobar phezulu, siye emva kwabo bonke abafana abamngqongileyo. Yayisisitshixo eso. Abathengisi bemali, iiSicarios, abo bafo babeqeqeshelwa ukubulala u-Escobar. Uqale ukusebenza ezantsi, kwaye loo nto yamshiya yedwa u-Escobar. Ndenze udliwanondlebe lwaseSpain, ndaye ndathi ‘nantsi into ekufuneka beyenzile ngo-El Chapo eMexico.’

Steve: Kwakukho amaxesha apho wawungena khona kwaye ikofu yayihlala ishushu. Yiyo indlela osondela ngayo ekuthabatheni.

Xa u-Escobar ekugqibeleni wehliswayo, lwaphela ixesha elingakanani olo ncedo?

USteve: Kangangeenyanga ezili-18, ukusukela kwixesha awasinda ngalo ekubulaweni kwakhe… yayiyeyona ikufutshane ndikhe ndadinwa. Ndingayichazanga eyokuba ndandinomfazi owayehlala eBogotá, kwaye samkela intombi yethu yokuqala.

Ke xa u-Escobar wabulawa… ndatsho ukuba yayiyeyona mihla imyoli ebomini bam. Mhlawumbi ubonile [umfanekiso ocacileyo] , apho ndimbambe khona ngenwele entloko. Ayisiyo yokuba ndingumntu ogulayo, okanye ndingumntu ogulayo, kodwa lelo yayilixabiso lokonwaba. Ndiyabulela uThixo ngoku. Elona candelo lilusizi lolo suku kukuba, kwafika incam kwindlu yozakuzo. Kwaye benza uJavier ukuba abalekele eMiami ukuze athethe nomntu onolwazi. Kwaye sazi ukuba kunjalo ..

UJavier: Sasisazi ukuba yinkomo.

USteve: Besiyazi ukuba kukuchitha nje ixesha. Ngokuqinisekileyo, usendleleni eya kwisikhululo seenqwelomoya xa babulala uEscobar. UJavier wayelapho iminyaka emithathu ngaphambi kwam. Ukuba nabani na wayefanelekile ukuba abekho xa babulala u-Escobar, yayinguye.

UJavier: Ndonwabile, nangona. Ndilahlekelwe ngabahlobo abalungileyo, ukuba wayebulele. Kwakunobuqu. Kwaye ujonge kwimbali ka-Escobar, wayebulele iinjengele zamagqwetha. Wabulala abagwebi. Wabulala umntu owayengumongameli. Singaqubha ezinye iileta ezivela ku-Escobar, kwaye wayekho nasemva kokuba ekhokele inkokheli ye-Bloc uHugo Martinez kunye nosapho. Yiloo nto iimvakalelo ezazenzelwe yona. Nje, 'Sikufumene.'

USteve: Iikhondomu apho uMartinez kunye nosapho lwakhe babehlala khona ezantsi, wonke umntu okweso sakhiwo wabeka ileta ndawonye wamcela ukuba ahambe. Babesoyika u-Escobar wayeza kuqhushumbisa sonke isakhiwo ukuze nje afike kuye. Ngeli xesha leenyanga ezili-18, kwakukho amaPolisa eSizwe aseColombia angama-143 abulawa ngenxa yokufunwa kuka-Escobar.

UJavier: EMeddelin, unokuba nabantu abangama-30-50 babulawa rhoqo ngeempelaveki ababenxulumene no-Escobar.

USteve: Kwiinyanga ezili-18, uMedellin waba likomkhulu lokubulala lehlabathi.

Kubaluleke kangakanani kuwe ukucinga INarcos ngokwemiqathango yokwazisa?

USteve: Zininzi iindlela zokujonga oku, kwaye ndiza kukhwela ibhokisi yam yesepha kancinci. Inye yile: sonke kufuneka sijonge kwimbali ukuze singaphindi iimpazamo ezifanayo Kuba ngoku sikhangela uChapo Guzman kwakhona, akunjalo? Ke basebenzisa into esiyenzileyo kwiminyaka engama-20 eyadlulayo njengomzekelo. Hnjengoko ukurhweba ngecocaine kutshintshe nayiphi na into? Hayi okoko nje ukubakho kunye nokufunwa, imithetho elula yezoqoqosho, umntu othile uya kubonelela ngemveliso. Ngaba kufuneka siyisuse ingalo yokunyanzeliswa kuba ingakhange isebenze ngokufanelekileyo njengoko sifuna njalo? Ngokuqinisekileyo akunjalo. Kusafuneka ubenayo loo ngalo yokunyanzelisa ukuzama ukwenza ukuba abantu bathobele. Mhlawumbi kuya kufuneka senze umsebenzi ongcono wokufundisa. Uvele uthi Hayi, UNOKWENZA, ndicinga ukuba ziinkqubo ezibalaseleyo. Kodwa, akwanele. Kufuneka senze enye into engaphezulu.

Ukumiselwa ngokusemthethweni akuyona impendulo. Yiya nje ujonge imbali. Kukho amazwe amaninzi eYurophu azamile ukwenziwa ngokusemthethweni, kwaye ayikasebenzi endaweni enye okwangoku. Ngoku sihamba nokugunyazisa intsangu apha eMelika, ngenjongo zonyango. Kulungile, ukuba kukho injongo esemthethweni yezonyango, kulungile. Vumela loo mntu atshaye imbiza. Kodwa hayi la mawaka kunye namawaka abantu. Ukuba siza kuba neefama zokulima intsangu, kunye namaziko okusasaza, masinyanzele imigangatho ethile kubantu abaqhuba ezo ndawo. Amaxesha amaninzi, ukuba ujonga iphepha lomntu, baya babanjwa amatyeli amaninzi. Akukho bungcali bungaphandle kokuthi ‘kulungile, benditshaya idope iminyaka engama-20.’ Ithini impendulo? Andazi. Ukuba ndiyazi, sonke siza kuba zizityebi, kwaye siza kuba seofisini entle kolu dliwanondlebe hayi kwigumbi lehotele.

UJavier, uPedro ngokucacileyo uyaziwa ngokusuka Imidlalo yeethrone . Ngaba ulungele ubuncinci bokudlulisela kuwe?

Javier: Ndiyathemba ukuba umboniso uyimpumelelo. Kodwa asingawo amaqhawe apha. Ngamapolisa esizwe aseColombia angamaqhawe. Besinendima kwimbali, kodwa amaqhawe okwenyani ngamapolisa amlandela. Ukuza kuthi, sibaxelele iinyani, kwaye bazakuyiveza. UPedro ungumfana olungileyo, ndiyamthanda, ndidibene naye. Ndiyathemba ukuba yimpumelelo kodwa… uyazi ukuba iColombia ayikude kakhulu e-US, kwaye ukubulala kunye neqela lemigulukudu, siyayihlasela loo nto.

USteve: IMexico ilungile kumda wethu. Akunyanzelekanga ukuba ndikuxelele ngento eyenzekayo ngokurhweba ngabantu ezantsi phaya. Omnye wabahlobo bethu yintloko yeofisi ye-DEA ezantsi eMexico City, ndambona kwiinyanga ezimbalwa ezidlulileyo, kwikomkhulu. Okwangoku, into enkulu yi-ISIS. Ndinesinye isivumelwano apho ndenza khona izinto zomkhosi kwi-ISIS, ndiyazi kakuhle ukuba kuqhubeka ntoni phaya ezantsi. Xa uthetha nentloko ye-DEA kwisiXeko saseMexico, isenobundlobongela ngakumbi, ikhohlakele ngakumbi eMexico kunokuba injalo eMbindi Mpuma. Kodwa yeyona ndawo ishushu kwimithombo yeendaba. Kuyingozi ngakumbi eMexico. Sijonge ‘ngaba siza kuthumela imikhosi eMbindi Mpuma? Siza kwenza ntoni? ’Siza kwenza ntoni ngayo yethu umda? Kulapho kanye.

(Olu dliwanondlebe luhleliwe kwaye lwagqitywa ngobude. I-Narcos idlalwe ngolwesiHlanu, Agasti 28 kwiNetflix. Ngolwazi oluthe kratya malunga noMnu Murphy kunye noMnu Pena, ndwendwela ku-www.NLESB.org)