Umdwebi wekhathuni uRobert Crumb kunye nemizobo yakhe eboniswe kwiZiko loLondolozo lweMbali eLudwig eCologne eJamani. (Ifoto: Brill Ullstein / Getty Izithombe) NGAPHAKATHIiEsi sizukulwana sababhali abagqithisileyo, ababhuqiwe, lonke uhambo olude olunzima olungena kwiindawo ezingaziwayo lubizwa ngokuba yiNtliziyo yoBumnyama-iGPS kunye nokungabikho kwemfazwe nangona kunjalo. Indoda endiyifunayo emathunjini aseFransi inombulelo ngokuhluthwa nayiphi na into ehlekisayo. URobert Crumb ebehlala kwilali yamaxesha aphakathi, apho iimoto zithintelweyo kwaye i-Wi-Fi enamabala ibhaqiwe kutshanje. Lo waseMelika wokwenyani uvalelwe-ekuthinjweni-kwindlu engatshixwanga-kule minyaka ingama-20 idlulileyo.
Kukho umgca othe ngqo wetyuwa-yomhlaba, ii-irony-free, ii-icon zonke zaseMelika, ezidlula ezivela kubapeyinti uThomas Hart Benton noReginald Marsh, iimvumi uWoody Guthrie noBob Dylan, yonke indlela eya eCrumb. IMelika, kubo, yayingeyiyo iflegi yayo, kodwa kukungcola kwayo. Baye babaleka kwezopolitiko nakwezonqulo kunye neelebheli: UGuthrie wayithanda iKK.K. ebutsheni bakhe kwaye uDylan waba ngumKristu ongumvangeli, umzekelo, kodwa bonke balwa ngokuchasene nomatshini wokucinezela waseMelika. AbakwaKennedy balala noMarilyn Monroe; Imvuthuluka wenza umhlobo kaJanis Joplin kaPattycakes.
Ndiyakwazi ukutshaya? Ndibuze uRobert Crumb, ndiqinisekile ukuba uza kuthi hayi kwisitudiyo sakhe, apho sithethe khona saqhubeka ngaphezulu kweentsuku ezintathu.
Ewe, andikhathali, utshilo.
Kukho i-comic engaqhelekanga yeCrumb, yee-1988 Iinkumbulo zenziwe ngale nto, loo nto yenze impembelelo ehlala ihleli kuye nabani na oyifundayo. Uthatha uhambo olude lwebhasi phantsi kwemvula ukuya kule ndlu yomfazi onomtsalane. Luhlobo lwayo: izityebile ngamathole amakhulu, atyebileyo. Akabonakali enomdla ekuqaleni, kodwa uyanxila kwaye ugqibela ngokutshabalalisa isondo kunye naye ngasemva. Emva koko ujonge kuthi kwaye usixelele ukuba ukusukela ngoku, akukho mfazi uzakumfuna kuba ulithandile eli bali. Umzobo uchanekile, ubukhali, ulula, ngqo ngqo ukuya kuthi ga-kude kufike kwinqanaba lesini, kwaye sonke isihogo siyakhululeka. Amehlo ayaphuma, iilwimi ziyaqhuma kwaye i-orgasm iguqula umfazi abe yinkomo yeCubist.
IVIDIYO EYODWA: Imbonakalo enqabileyo ngaphakathi kwestudiyo sikaRobert Crumb emazantsi eFrance
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Eli bali liyimbono engathandekiyo yothando kunye nesondo, utshilo uMnu Crumb. Nawuphi na umfazi oqhelekileyo, okrelekrele, ohlobo lwekholeji unokulifumana eli bali elicekisekayo, angathi jonga indlela alibonisa ngayo eli bhinqa. Uyanxila kwaye emva koko akhuphe, lo mfo uyakhasa, inenzondo nje kubafazi. Akuthandeki kakhulu; bafuna ukuthandana. Abanye ababhali banetalente yokulukuhla abafazi ngomsebenzi wabo, ufunda izinto zabo kwaye uyazi ukuba bayalahlekisa abantu basetyhini. Bubugcisa. Amanye amadoda ayakwazi ukuthetha nabasetyhini kwaye andinayo nje loo nto.
Ababhali abanjengoMartin Amis okanye uChristopher Hitchens banjalo, ungatsho ukuba ukubhala kwabo kwenzelwe ukulala nabafazi. Bebehlala betha kuyo yonke into ehambayo, ndimxelele.
Umshicileli wam wandixelela ukuba abafazi abazithengi izinto zam, utshilo uMnu Crumb. Xa ndenza utyikityo lwencwadi kwaye ndibona umfazi onomtsalane emgceni ndiyazi ukuba uza kundicela ukuba ndityikitye incwadi yendoda yakhe okanye isoka lakhe, ongumlandeli omkhulu womsebenzi wam. Ndithi kuni, phantse iipesenti ezili-100 ziqikelelwa!
Ndiyazi abafazi abaninzi abawuthandayo umsebenzi wakho. Abanye abantu basetyhini abakhathali ngokuthandana; bayazi ukuba umfana obanika iintyatyambo, uphethe ikaka yabo kwaye ubambe iingcango baya kugqibela ngokubakhohlisa.
Ewe, ngasese abo ngabafana abathi bathetha izinto ezimbi kakhulu ngabafazi, utshilo uMnu Crumb.
Ndaye kwindawo yokutyela kunye neli bhinqa linomtsalane kanye ndaye ndatsho ukuba ndiyamlahla, ndatsho. Ndandisoyika kakhulu, ndingazithembi kwaye ndilulamile. Ndaphukile kodwa ndammemela kuNobu, kanye loo nto yayihlekisa. Ndithathe isigqibo sokufaka iskripthi kwaye ndiyekelwa. Ndaya ndibuthathaka ngalo mzuzu, wayebuqonda ubuthathaka bam kwaye mhlawumbi wandibona njengale ndoda iphantse yasebenza.
Yes, ubuzikhuphela ngokwakho, utshilo uMnu Crumb.
Ngokuchanekileyo. Ndayazi ukuba ngekhe aphinde andibone, ke xa ebuya kwigumbi lokuhlambela ndathi kuye: uneyona mpundu intle, ndingathanda ukuyitya-kwaye iyasebenza. Kwenye yeenqwelwana zakho, uthi abafazi baya kuhlala beyeyona ndoda ingathandekiyo.
'Umsebenzi wam ufikelele kubaphulaphuli abaninzi ngenxa yokuba bendisebenzisa indlela yesiNtu yokuzoba ukuthetha into eyedwa neyam.'
Baza kubhikisha bathi, 'Ndiyalucaphukela olo hlobo lendoda ehlaselayo, enekratshi,' utshilo uMnu Crumb. Abafazi abaninzi baya kukuxelela ukuba eyona nto bayithandayo emntwini yingqondo. La madoda mabini ahlekisayo endiwaziyo ngawona maqhula afanelekileyo ngala makhwenkwe angamaJuda akrakra, azithobayo, ahlekisa kakhulu. Belahlekile ngokupheleleyo ngabafazi. Abasetyhini babona icandelo lokuzithoba-ukhomba ubuthathaka malunga nawe; banokuhleka, kodwa bayabuqonda ubuthathaka. Nokuba kunzima ukwenza ngokubanzi, ukuba wenza isiqhulo ngawe ukuba awkward okanye usilele, yile nto inamathele ezingqondweni zabo.
Ndiphendule, ndakhe ndabuza umfana omnandi ukuba wayekhe walahlwa, wathi kum, 'Bonke ubomi bam.' Uthe into abangayiqondiyo abantu basetyhini kukuba ngelixesha sifumana umntu othi ewe, sizisa yena i-50 nos ebesinayo ngaphambili, ngayo yonke ingqumbo, ubukrakra obuza nayo, ukwaliwa kwangaphambili okutshabalalise ukuzithemba kwethu.
Ndizamile ukuthetha nabasetyhini malunga naloo mbandela wolawulo lwamadoda, amandla kunye nobufazi amaxesha amaninzi ngaphambili. Abafuni kuva ngayo. Ukwala okukodwa kwaye kunjalo kum. Oko kuyandibulala nje, utshilo uMnu Crumb. Khange ndikwazi ukuthatha zonke ezo nos ukuze ndingenzi kwanto. Ndikhubazekile nje. Abasetyhini balindele ukuba amadoda athathe inyathelo, anyanzelise, anyanzelise; balindele ukuthandana nokulukuhlwa. Ngaphandle kobufazi, abantu basetyhini basafuna ukuba yinto enomtsalane, kwaye ukuzithemba kwendoda ekuthandaneni naye luvavanyo ekufuneka alupasile ukuze aliphumelele.
Ke, ngaphambi kokuba udume, wawubekwa njani?
Andizange.
Kuya kufuneka ube une-ego enkulu, ndimxelele.
I-Gigantic, kodwa udumo luguqule konke oku, wathi, ndatshata nomfazi wokuqala otyebileyo odlulayo, lo mfazi onoburharha, ongazithembanga. Ndandihlala ubomi bekhoboka lomvuzo eCleveland kwaye ngenye imini ngoJanuwari, 1967, ndakhwela nje ukuya eSan Francisco ndingamxelelanga, ndawushiya umsebenzi wam kwishishini lokubulisa. Inkcubeko yehippie yaseHaight-Ashbury, apho yonke yaqala khona kum, yayigcwele amadoda engenzi nto imini yonke kwaye elindele ukuba abantu basetyhini babaphathele ukutya. ‘Intshontsho’ kwafuneka libalungiselele ikhaya, libaphekele ukutya, lide lihlawule nerente. Kwakusekugxininiswe kakhulu kwingqondo yookhokho bethu ngaphambili, ngaphandle kokuba oobawo, ngokubanzi, babengababoneleli. Uthando olukhululekileyo lwaluthetha isini sasimahla kunye nokutya kwamadoda. Ngokuqinisekileyo, abafazi bayayonwabela, nabo, kwaye babenezesondo ezininzi, kodwa emva koko bakhonza amadoda. Ngaphandle kwamaqela ezopolitiko asekhohlo, abafazi babesoloko behliswa kwimisebenzi yobunobhala, imisebenzi ephantsi. Sonke sasikwi-LSD, ke kwathatha iminyaka embalwa ukuba umsi uphele kwaye abantu basetyhini baqonde ukuba yeyiphi na into abangayenzanga kunye ne'er-do-well hippie eyindoda. Amadoda afumene ukubalasela ngelo xesha bonke babuyinkohliso, ii-gurus ezingeyonyani ezazibhatala uxolo nothando, i-charismatic conspirator eyayifuna nje ukubamba bonke abafundi bayo. UTimothy Leary wayenjalo. Iphony enkulu.
Ukusuka 'kwiiNkumbulo zenziwe ngale nto,' ngo-1988
Ngodumo awuzange uphephe ukwaliwa kunye nokubaleka unaphakade, ndiye ndabona.
Yayilolona tshintsho lubalulekileyo ebomini bam, wavuma, kwaye yeza ngesiquphe, nayo. Bonke abafazi abahle ngesiquphe baqala ukugxalathelana ukuza kum. Kwenzekile, ngokungathi, ngobusuku obunye, ngonyaka we-1968. Yathatha umphefumlo wam.
NGAPHAKATHIIsondo ubelana ngesondo kwimizobo yakho, njengakwibali lebhasi, ihlala isemva, ndiqwalasele. Kodwa asikaze sibone ukuba sesini esini okanye sangasese.
Andikaze ndibuzwe loo nto ngaphambili, utshilo uMnu. Yinto yelungu lobufazi, nangona isenzo sokungena ngokwaso ayisosiganeko siphambili kum. Zizinto zengqondo ezijikelezileyo, oko kubizwa ngokuba yi 'foreplay,' ndiyaqikelela ungatsho. Kulapho iziyolo ezinkulu zikhona kum. Ukwabelana ngesondo ngam kulungile, uyazi, i-icing kwikhekhe, okanye enye into. Ezi zinto kunzima ukuthetha ngazo. Ngapha koko, konke okuhlekisayo.
Kulezo zihlekisayo, i-Crumb ibonakala ngathi ithande ukukhwela umfazi kwisitayile se-piggyback okanye emagxeni akhe amakhulu okanye ekufuneni ithole lakhe elikhulu, elityebileyo, elixholiweyo ngelixa ebetha izidlele zakhe ezinkulu. Kucacile nakubani na ofunda ii-comics zakhe ukuba akukho mahluko phakathi kwesidalwa esingaziwayo asitsalayo kunye ne-Crumb yokwenyani, nangona echitha ixesha naye kwaye ehlala endlwini yakhe, ndiye ndaphawula ukuba ushiya izinto ezininzi ezinomdla ngaphandle. Njengoko u-Umberto Eco esitsho, Ekuphela kwento esiyaziyo ukuba iyinyani kukuba uClark Kent nguSuperman.
Yiyiphi indawo oyithandayo yesondo? Ndimbuzile.
'Oku kuqhuba ngesondo kubangela iingxaki ezininzi,' utshilo uMnu Crumb, 'kuba ndichithe ixesha lam elininzi kunye namandla ndileqa abantu basetyhini, ndicinga ngabafazi, ndibaleka. Igcina yonke into ingazinzanga, yenza ubomi buhlanye. Awunakucinga kakuhle, singasathethi ke ngokugcina ubudlelwane obuzinzileyo. '
Umnumzana Crumb wagigitheka kukoyika watshintsha isitulo. Andazi… Ngaba yinto endifanele ukuyenza…? Andikwazi ukuthetha ngayo. Ndingayidweba kwiikhomikhi zam, kodwa andikwazi ukuthetha ngayo… Ihlazo. Emva koko ndakwazi njani ukuzoba ukuba lonke ihlabathi libone, ungabuza? Andiyazi impendulo. Ndiyathanda ukuncanciswa ngelixa ndihleli esitulweni kunye nalomfazi eguqe ngamadolo, zonke zisasazekile ukuze ndibethe impundu yakhe enkulu, utshilo. Iesile elikhulu lizulu nje. Njengebhasikithi ezimbini ezinkulu.
Ngenye imini, xa ushiya iofisi kaDavid Remnick emva ENew Yorker Ukuyalelwa ngamabali amabini nguMnumzana Crumb kunye nenkosikazi yakhe u-Aline-omnye kumnyhadala wefilimu wase-Cannes kunye nomnye kwiNew York Fashion Week- uCrumb uxelele umhleli ongonwabanga: Heyi David, akukho dick kunye noomakazi, akunjalo?
Remnick, Mnu Crumb ukhumbule. Umntu onenzondo ukuba ukhona. Utsale iqweqwe lemagazini ngomtshato wabantu abangatshatanga ongazange upapashwe.
Fokanye yonke intetho yakhe malunga nokufika ngexesha eligqibeleleyo ekupheleni kweminyaka yama-60s, uRobert Crumb usenokuba wavuya ngokwaziwa kula maxesha ethu, xa i-dork engathandekiyo, engaqhelekanga, eyimpumputhe, enomsindo ibonakala ilawula phakathi kwabasetyhini-ngokungaqhelekanga, nje njengoko umdla wakhe kwisini uyehla.
Uziva njani ngobomi bakho bokuzonwabisa bufikelela esiphelweni? Ndimbuzile.
Ukuqhuba kwam ngokwesondo kuye kwancipha kakhulu ngoku, waphendula. Kufana nokuba ekugqibeleni uvunyelwe ukwehla ihashe lasendle. (Akungabazeki ukuba ukuhlala kwilali elahlekileyo yewaka lokukhaba kuncede kakhulu ukwehla kwelo hashe.)
Ngokwenene? Kungenxa yokuba bathi akukaze kubekho ukubetha kuninzi njengakumakhaya abantu abalupheleyo. Kukho ishishini elipheleleyo le-porn yabantu abadala.
Le sex sex drive ibangela iingxaki ezininzi, utshilo uMnu Crumb, kuba ndichithe ixesha lam elininzi kunye namandla ndileqa abasetyhini, ndicinga ngabafazi, ndibaleka. Igcina yonke into ingazinzanga, yenza ubomi buhlanye. Awunakucinga ngokucacileyo, mayeke ukugcina ubudlelwane obuzinzileyo. Andizange ndibe nobudlelwane bomntu omnye. Khange ndikwazi ukuyenza. Ndandikhathazeke kakhulu ngawo onke loo mantombazana amangalisayo ngaphandle phaya. Andizange ndikhe ndikhethe umbala weenwele okanye ubuhlanga, ukuba bezinkulu, zakhiwe ngokuqinileyo, zinemilenze eshinyeneyo, yiyo yonke loo nto ibalulekileyo kwingcinga yam yokuqalisa ukubaleka. Andizange ndilawule le nto, le libido yesondo.
La mabali owazobayo abaluleke kakhulu, ndamxelela. Awuyikhuthazi imogogyny nangayiphi na indlela, uzibeke ngokwakho emhlabeni uhamba ze kwaye yeyona nto icaphukisayo abantu abaninzi kunenye into. Uninzi lwamadoda nabasetyhini banokuzibona kwibali lokukhwela kwakho ibhasi phantsi kwemvula, abasetyhini abafuna utywala okanye i-buzz yokufaka amakhwenkwe adikayo kunye namadoda angakwaziyo ukukhulelwa ukuba umfazi angathanda ukuba abhadle…
Lo mfo ndiyamazi ubala inani lamaxesha ndanqumla amakhosikazi kumabali am. Ndiyilibele inombolo. Ndandisoyika kakhulu, utshilo uMnu Crumb.
Ngaba ungambulala umntu? Ndibuzile.
Hayi, andinayo kum. Andinalo olo hlobo lobundlobongela kum; ukuba ikhona into, ngendandizibulele.
Ukunqumka kwezigqibo, yintoni yonke loo nto? Ngobubele bukaR. Crumb
Andiqinisekanga, utshilo uMnu. Ndicinga ukuba ndinomsindo omkhulu kum. Ngokwenene yaphuma emva kokuba ndiye ndaduma. Ndibeka konke phaya ukuvavanya uthando lwabo-iicomics zam zangaphantsi zangaphantsi ngokwenene zithambile, kodwa emva kokuba ndidume ndatyhila ezona ngcinga zam zinzulu nezimnyama kubo bonke. Abasetyhini abaninzi ngelo xesha babethetha ngokuxhatshazwa kwabo ngamadoda; yayiligagasi lokuqala elikhulu lombutho wenkululeko yabasetyhini kwaye into yokugqibela ababefuna ukuyibona yayingumsindo wamadoda. I kinda ndiyikhuphe kwinkqubo yam, nangona kunjalo.
Umlingiswa wakho emsebenzini wakho usengozini kunoko-unyanisekile, kodwa umntu. Andiboni misogyny emsebenzini wakho, ndamxelela.
Kukho, Mnu Crumb waphendula. Ndingaba ndiyaxoka ukuba ndingathi andinayo inyama yenkomo kunye nomntu obhinqileyo wohlobo.
Ngaba umsindo wawukukulahlwa okungagungqiyo owangeniswa ngabafazi kwangoko kwisikolo samabanga aphakamileyo?
Inoba ndandisisiphatho sesibane, ndandingabonakali. Ndabethwa yintombazana xa ndandikwibanga lesithathu. Ndingumntwana obhinqileyo kakhulu, usisi. Wathi kum, ‘Oo, hamba uye ekhaya ukhalele umama wakho,’ waza wahleka yena neentombi zakhe. Uqhekeze iiglasi zam. Kwaye oonongendi kwisikolo samaKatolika babekhohlakele. Babewathiyile amakhwenkwe. Babenengxaki yengqondo nangokomzimba, utshilo uMnu Crumb.
Ukuba kukho nantoni na, ndibona intiyo yamadoda kwiikomikhi zakho, ndatsho.
Owu, ndiwathiyile kakhulu amadoda kunabafazi, Mnu. Ngamadoda enza konke ukudlwengula nokuphanga, ukubulawa kwabantu abaninzi. Udumo luye lwandibhenca kwicala elinobunkunkqele, elinobuqhetseba ebuntwini endingakhange ndilazi ngaphambili. Ndandineminyaka nje engu-naïve, i-schlub eneminyaka eyi-26 kunye nomphathi osebenzela inkampani yamakhadi abulisayo. Bendi ngumsebenzi nje ndizobe la makhadi. Emva kokuba ndiqalisile ukwenza ezi comic, ngequbuliso uninzi lwamadoda afakwe ngononophelo kwizambatho zomsele wesikhumba kunye nehempe ezivulekileyo ezinamakhonkco egolide afuna ukuthetha nam enze isivumelwano.
Ubahlile? Ndibuzile
Ngalo lonke ixesha, watsho, kodwa ndahamba nohambo lwasimahla. Bafuna ukuba ndityikitye ikontrakthi yeminyaka emihlanu, ndizama ukwahluka kwaye ndenze imali ngale nto yehippie, ngandlela thile yokuthengisa isiko langaphantsi. Bendingafuni ukuba ngabaninimntu iminyaka emihlanu. Lowo yayingumgibe. Bekungayi kuba yinto engenakwenzeka ngelo xesha ukuthengisa ngoluhlobo. Ukuza kwishishini lekhadi lokubulisa ngemithetho emxinwa kakhulu, engqongqo malunga nento onokuyizobela kunye nento ongenakukuzoba, ukuze ekugqibeleni ufumane inkululeko yomxube we-Zap ongaphantsi komhlaba eCalifornia nase-LSD wawukhulula kakhulu.
Besingadingi mali ingako ukuze siphile, unokurenta igumbi ngeedola ezingama-30 ngenyanga. Ungazoba nantoni na oyifunayo uze upapashwe, uyibone ngokuprintwa, akukho zithintelo ngaphandle kwezo ndizibeke kum, ibingumlingo. Umlingo wokuprinta, yonke loo nto yayingummangaliso, into entsha kraca, inguquko kakhulu, kwaye abantu babezithenga kwaye saqala ukwenza imali encinci ngayo. Iicomics ezingenakuthintelwa ngokupheleleyo. Indawo ekuphela kwayo eyayikade ikhona ngaphambili yayikwezi zikhuselo zephonografi zisibhozo ziphantsi komhlaba phantsi kwee-30's ezazithengiswa ngokufihlakeleyo. Ezo ncwadana yayizizinto ezihlekisayo zangaphantsi ezazizele ngoochomi, ezicace gca, kodwa ezihlekisayo, nezihloko ezinje, 'Isikhundla yinto yonke ebomini,' okanye 'Dlala le ivayolini yakho.'
Uwafumene phi amandla okushiya nje yonke into ngasemva? Ndimbuzile.
Ndisweleka nje apho, konke kwawela endaweni ngokugqibeleleyo, ngexesha elifanelekileyo. Ndandiyekile. Ndiwuyekile umsebenzi wam, ndabalekela eSan Francisco, yayilihlobo lothando, abantu babeyishiya imisebenzi yabo, iikholeji kunye nokuthontelana ukuya kuNxweme oluseNtshona, imecca yothando. Yayiyimini enkulu yenguqulelo kwinkcubeko yamashumi amathandathu. Konke ngokuthe ngcembe kwawa phakathi nge-70's, kwaye nge-80's ngokunyuka kwee-yuppies, unyulo lukaReagan kunye ne-real estate boom. ECarlifonia bekusoloko kungokuthengiswa kwezindlu okoko kwaqala iGold Rush, kodwa ii80's zabona ukuqhuma kwayo. Baphambana. Wonke umntu wayefumana ilayisensi yakhe yokuthengiswa kwezindlu. Baqhubeka nokwakha olu phuculo lwezindlu apho sasihlala khona. Kwakuyindawo yokulima apho xa safika kuqala, emva koko yonke into yaba ngumlo. UDow Chemical wazama ukuza apho, sayilwa loo nto. Emva koko iSuper Collider, sayilwa loo nto. Yayilidabi eliqhubekayo nxamnye nale mikhosi yophuhliso kunye neshishini. Basalwa nabo phaya eCarlifonia ngoku. URobert Crumb kwisitudiyo sakhe sasekhaya. (Ifoto: Jacques Hyzagi)
NGAPHAKATHIkuwo onke la mabhinqa nodumo, uye watshata kwakhona, ku-Aline. Andiyiqondi lo nto. Ngaba nina ninohlobo oluvulekileyo?
Ewe, xa siqala ukubandakanyeka ndamxelela indlela endahamba ngayo esihogweni kunye nomfazi wam wokuqala kunye nabanye abafazi abanomona. Andinakuthembakala kwaye wathi, ‘Kulungile, ndingaphila ngayo.’ Kukho ubugcisa kuyo, kufuneka ube novakalelo, ulumke ngayo. Awunakho ukuzisa umfazi ekhaya uthi, ‘Heyi, ndiza kulala naye kwelinye igumbi.’ Uyigcine ngaphandle kobuso bakhe, uqhubeke njalo. Ndinayo le enye intombi e-Oregon kangangeminyaka engama-25. Sibonana amaxesha ambalwa ngonyaka. Ndazibandakanya naye kwiminyaka embalwa ngaphambi kokuba sifudukele eFrance ekuqaleni kweminyaka yama-90. Kwaye u-Aline wayenamakhwenkwe athandana nawo, enye wayeyibona kwaye engaphaya kangangeminyaka engama-20, isithandwa sakhe sesiLatin.
Udumo lukuzisa kwinqanaba, ndicinga ukuba, apho abantu basetyhini besele bekwazi oko sele ukufezekisile. Akunyanzelekanga ukuba uzichaze ngokwakho iiyure njengathi sonke schmucks.
Ewe. Kwakumangalisa kum ukuba abafazi abathandekayo ngokwenene baba 'nomdla' kum, andizange ndikholelwe. Umdlalo wonke ngequbuliso waba lula kakhulu. Kwakungekho mfuneko yokuba ndibonise nantoni na. Sele bachukumisekile ngaphambi kokuba uthethe nantoni na.
Bangaphi abafazi esithetha ngabo apha? Amawaka? Ndibuzile.
Ndenze itali kube kanye. Ndade ndabelana ngesondo nabasetyhini abangama-55, utshilo uMnu Crumb. Kulawo ma-55, ali-10 ayemnandi ngokwenene. Ndiluhlobo oluthile lwesini. Abanye abantu basetyhini bayifumana iyothusa kwaye iyanyanyeka, kodwa ngethamsanqa kukho abanye abayithandayo. Zininzi izinto ezahlukileyo ekukhetheni abantu ngokwesondo onokuthi uziqokelele njenge zoo. Ekuqaleni ndandineentloni kwaye ndandithandabuza ukubonisa imibala yam yokwenyani, ukhetho lwam. Ndenza ngokuhambelana nemigangatho yokuziphatha ngokwesondo endikhe ndayibona kwiimovie zaseHollywood, into ethathwa njengeqhelekileyo, eyamkelekileyo ekuhlaleni. Ngokuthe ngcembe ngodumo ndaye ndanesibindi ndaza ndafumanisa ukuba abanye abantu basetyhini abayamkelanga nje indlela endinayo kodwa benyanisile koko ndithanda ukukwenza nabo kwaye ibikukufumanisa okumangalisayo oko. Ndigqibile ukuba nobomi obumnandi ngokwesondo ngaphaya kwamaphupha am amabi, awona mava anzima. Mhlawumbi yile ngcamango yenkolo yempuma yobabini, kufuneka uhlupheke ukuze ufumane amava amaninzi obomi.
Ukuthabatheka kwamabhinqa kokuqala endandinako kwakukunye nomlinganiswa weTV obizwa ngokuba nguSheena, uKumkanikazi wehlathi. Wayedlalwa ngumdlali weqonga onama-6 eenyawo-1, uIrish McCalla, enxibe esi skim sinxibe isikhumba esinengubo kwaye ehlala ehlathini. Andizange ndilinde ukulala ebusuku kwaye ndicinga ngento endiza kuyenza naye. Ndakhe ubomi obunobutyebi obucebileyo ngeminyaka yam yokufikisa, kwaye, ukuze ekugqibeleni ndikwazi ukwenza yonke loo nto yayichulumancisa kakhulu. Ayichazeki. Ingaphaya kwamagama. Eyona nto intle ebomini, indlela ebhetele kuneziyobisi.
UKUYAfter ifayile Fritz ikati I-movie debacle, ngaba uzame ukubhala i-movie yesondo ngokwakho? Ngenxa yokuba ii-comics zakho zinamabali amaninzi, ndibuze.
Lonke ibali elijikeleze i- Fritz ikati Imovie yayinenzondo. Bendingazi ukuba ndingajongana njani neengcali zemithombo yeendaba ezinamandla aphezulu… bekufanele ukuba ndixelele uRalph Bakshi, umlawuli, ngaphandle kwamathandabuzo ukuba andifuni ukwenza umboniso bhanyabhanya naye, kodwa andikwazi kumelana yena. Ekugqibeleni, wakhwela inqwelo-moya esiya eSan Francisco waza wacela umfazi wam [ngelo xesha], endandimnike igunya legqwetha, ukuba atyikitye isivumelwano. Andinakumgxeka, ngokwenene. Wafumana i $ 10,000 kwangoko. Ndandibalekile ndamshiya ejongana noMnu Bakshi, uMnu Crumb ukhumbule.
Ndiyayithanda indlela ojika ngayo xa ubulele uFritz ikati kwi-comic kanye emva kokukhutshwa kwe-movie. Kodwa esi siqendu asikuthintelanga ekusebenzeni eHollywood?
Ewe, ngasekupheleni kweminyaka yee-1980, ndaye ndazibandakanya nokubhala ifilimu kunye noTerry Zwigoff. Saya ezantsi eLos Angeles kwaye sithathe iintlanganiso ezithile. Wandixelela kamva ukuba uWoody Allen wamchazela indlela ahlaselwa ngayo yiHollywood. Ke simise iskripthi sethu kwezi ntlanganiso kodwa uyazi ukuba ezinye zeentlanganiso zazingaqhelekanga, ngekhe utsho ukuba kuqhubeka ntoni kuzo. Xa ubuyela emotweni yakho uyazibuza, kwenzeka ntoni kanye phaya? Ngaba yayinguEwe, ngaba nguhayi? Yayisekwe kwibali elihlekisayo endilwenzileyo kwiminyaka yoo-70s malunga nesigebenga, sasquatch sabasetyhini. Kukho lo mfo wimpy unjengam obanjwa nguye aqhutyelwe ehlathini. Ndazingca ngayo. Ndisebenze iinyanga ezintandathu kwinto egwetyiweyo; Ndifunde ifomula yokubhala. Sasicinga ukuba siskripthi esiqinileyo, inkcazo ehlekisayo kwezentlalo. Basixelele ukuba yayiyincwadi ebhaliweyo ebhalwe kakuhle kodwa yayingengombono wentengiso kakhulu kwaye iyangqubana nexabiso losapho kuba lo mfo ulushiya usapho ngenxa yakhe.
Ndiyazibuza ukuba iskripthi sakho besingazenzakalisi. E-Hollywood, ngubani oza kuvelisa laa mfazi mkhulu? Indikhumbuza umboniso bhanyabhanya omfutshane owenziwe nguFellini ngalo mfo ufumanisa ukuba uziphethe kakubi kweli bhinqa likhulu lilingayoI-adboard yasendlwini yakhe kwaye ugqiba ukwehla ebhodini kwaye athethe naye kwaye amthande, nditshilo.
Ewe, IBoccaccio '70 . Umfazi webhodi yebhodi yayingu-Anita Ekberg, emkhulu kwaye emhle, utshilo uMnu Crumb. Ndiyamthanda uFellini, bendihlala ndikhuthazwa nguye, ngakumbi 8 1/2 kwaye Ubomi obumnandi . Wayebathanda abafazi abakhulu, njengam. Wakhe wathi, ‘Ke ndiyabathanda abafazi abakhulu, ngaba kufuneka ndixolise ngalonto, nam?’ Kwakungenangqondo kum, ndandingazi ngcono, ndandimsulwa. Sineziphakamiso ezininzi zokutshintsha iskripthi kwaye saxakaniseka yiyo yonke. Senze utshintsho kwaye into yawa ngaphandle, umbono uphela ulahlekile.Bathe sizakubeka izigidi ezintlanu zeedola, sibhalele iscript esibonisa iphonografi. UTerry wayefanele ukuyiqondisa. Ke ndimisele ukusebenza kule script ngokusekwe kweli bali leBigfoot. Kodwa abazalwana bachitha yonke imali yabo ematyaleni, isixeko besizama ukubavala. Babesoloko bebandakanyeka ezinkundleni, besilwa namanyala. Ke uTerry wandicenga ukuba ndigqibe iskripthi ukuze sikwazi ukusibeka eHollywood. Ndandinalo mbono wokuzisa ebomini esi sidalwa sikhulu sabasetyhini, sokuba kum yayiyimbono yokulukuhla, ukufumana umdlali weqonga omkhulu kwaye ndimfake kwisuti yoboya kwaye enze le fantasy yam. Kwakungenangqondo kum ukuba ndikholelwe ukuba ndingayikhupha eHollywood. Kwakuyinto yakudala… Uyazi, ulukuhlile kwaye ulahliwe. URobert Crumb: Ingxelo Yamaxesha Anamhlanje. (Ifoto: Chris Jackson / Getty Izithombe)
Hukhe wacinga ngokuzibulala? Ndibuzile.
Ewe. Ukugqibela kwam ukusondela ngo-1986, uMnu Crumb wathi, ndandikwincopho yodumo lwam. I-BBC yeza kwam ukuza kwenza uxwebhu ngam kwaye ndafumana imbeko kule ndibano yamahlaya, iAngoulême International Comics Festival eFrance. Zonke ezi ngxaki zinento yokwenza nodumo. Ndidinga imali, ke ndasamkela isicelo seBBC. Bahlasele indlu yam ngeekhamera zabo, izibane kunye ne-shit yabo - kwakubi. Emva koko ndaya kwindibano enkulu yamahlaya eFrance, apho yayisisiganeko esiphambili. Bakhe intloko enkulu kum, abantu banokuhamba ngayo. Zonke izinto zam ezihlekisayo bezincanyathiselwe ngaphakathi kwentloko enkulu. Kwakungcungcuthekiswa. Kwakukho iintatheli, abafoti ndawo yonke indawo. Ndaziva ndibucekisile ubomi.
Ke ngubani othenga ikaka yakho? Abanye abatyebileyo, balding wanker mfo kwigumbi elingaphantsi likamama?
Ewe, utshilo uMnu.
Akumangalisi ukuba ufuna ukuzibulala. Ndithe.
Ndibabona kwindibano, utshilo uMnu Crumb. Abafana bakaNerdy okanye amanqatha, iihipp ezindala. Ngenye imini ndandityikitya iincwadi ecaleni kwalomfo uPeter Bagge, owayenamantombazana amancinci afikisayo. Iincwadi zakhe ezihlekisayo ngamabali ahlekisayo malunga nabantwana abancinci bepunk rock-uhlobo, ukubonakalisa uvelwano lwehlabathi labo. Umsebenzi wam uyabaleka abantu basetyhini. Eyona nto uthetha ngayo ocinga ukuba kufuneka iyenze ibe novelwano kubo, bayifumana iyothusa kakhulu. Lo mfo uyingenisayo, ocekisekayo othi emva koko afune ukulawula kwaye enze zonke ezi zinto ziphambeneyo kubafazi. Kubomi bokwenyani, abanye abantu basetyhini banokuphendula kolo hlobo lwendoda, kodwa ndikholelwe, ayisiyiyo le bayifunayo kulonwabo lwabo. Bayafuna Amathunzi angamashumi amahlanu nantlanu kagreyi , ethengisa iikopi ezizizigidi ezingama-50, zonke zisenzelwa abasetyhini.
Endleleni, wadibana nabanye abanoveli abanetalente kakhulu, ndamxelela. Kodwa uninzi lwazo aluzange lwenze njalo, ndatsho. Yintoni ababenayo?
Abakwazanga ukubalisa ibali elihambelanayo, uMnu Crumb uthe, Kwakungafundeki, kufikeleleka kubaphulaphuli. Umntakwethu uCharles wayeyinkosi yam. Wayeyingqondi ekuzobeni amahlaya. Wayenamandla kakhulu. Wayichaphazela ngokwenene indlela endibona ngayo ihlabathi. Ndandihlala ndifuna ukumkholisa kwaye wayehlala ethetha ngokubalisa, ibali kwiikhomikhi. Wayenombono onamandla kakhulu wehlabathi, womelele kakhulu kunam. Waye waqala nokwenza inkqubela phambili eyimfihlakalo, yokomoya ngelixa wayesekwishumi elivisayo. Emva koko yonke into yamhambela kakubi, wazama ukuzibulala ngokusela ipolishi yefanitshala ngo -71 kwaye basimpompa isisu. Urhulumente, ngenxa yokuba abazali bam babengenamali, bambeka kwichiza elinamandla lokuzola kwaye oko kwamhlalisa ubomi bakhe bonke. Wayeyazi ukuba imbi, kodwa wayengakwazi ukuphuma kuyo.
Ngaba wakhathazeka xa uCharles ekugqibeleni wazibulalayo?
Hayi, ndakhululeka, utshilo uMnu Crumb. Umntu olusizi, olubi. Ukugqibela kwam ukumbona, wandixelela, ‘Ukuba andinakukwazi ukuzikhupha kule nto, ndiza kuzibulala.’ Wayengumbhali onomdla, onomdla, naye. Umdwebi wekhathuni xa wayesemncinci, kodwa waphulukana nomdla wokuzoba. Wayezingca kakhulu ngempumelelo yam kuba ndandifana nomfundi wakhe.
Baninzi abantu eMelika abahlala kwiibhedi zabo njengoCharles; yinto yaseMelika. Ndazi abantu abaninzi abanjeya, abesilisa nabasetyhini. Wayesisitabane, akunjalo? Ndibuzile.
Akazange alale ngesondo. Wayewathanda amakhwenkwe amancinci. Leyo yinto yaseMelika-ukuba bodwa okugqithisileyo, ukuhlala bodwa, isizungu. UMnu Crumb uqaphele.
Uyabona ukuba e-Edward Hopper, ndiphendule. Uyawuthanda umsebenzi wakhe?
Hayi, uMnu Crumb uthe. Wayene-shtick, ezinye zeepeyinti zakhe zinobuthathaka. Ndinomdla kakhulu nguThomas Hart Benton, uReginald Marsh. Imizobo yabo mihle, inomdla. Ubomi bukaBenton bunomdla ngenene -ngokuhamba kwakhe eMelika apho aya kudibana namafama kunye nabasebenzi, njengoWoody Guthrie.
Kukho icala elimnyama nalo, olu thando lokungcola kwefama kunye nokulele fetish, bekukho into yokuthand 'izwe, ubuzwe malunga noBenton, ndamxelela, kwaye uGuthrie waqala kwangoko njengomthandi weKKK, ephenjelelwa ngutata wakhe.
Intoni?! UMnu Crumb wathi.
Kungenxa yoko le nto into yeqhawe ihlala i-idiotic, ndiyinike. Imizobo yoqobo ka R. Crumb (Ifoto: Graeme Robertson / Getty Izithombe)
Andikhathali nokuba amagcisa ayiphiko elilungileyo okanye akunjalo, utshilo uMnu. Crumb, ukuba nje ayingabo abachasene namaSemite okanye abachasene nabamnyama kwaye umsebenzi wabo womelele. Ndibathanda kakhulu abazobi njengoGeorge Grosz, uOtto Dix, uChristian Schad.
Ewe, ii-Objectivists ezintsha zezinye zezona peyinti zinomdla kule nkulungwane iphelileyo. Ndaya kuhlola indlu kaGrosz eLong Island, ndatsho.
Ngokwenene? Bendingazi ukuba ungayenza loo nto. Ndiyamthanda uBrueghel, uBosch sonke eso sikolo sabapeyinti baseNetherland. uthe.
URobert Hughes ovela Ixesha wayehlala ekubiza ngokuba yiBruegel yamahlaya, ndamxelela.
Nangona umsebenzi wam awufani nokaBrueghel, inyani kukuba awuyiki nto. Uboleka, uyeba, utshilo
Ube kubani? Ndibuze uHarvey Kurtzman? UMax Fleischer?
Ewe, kunjalo konke kulapho, yayizizikhuthazo ezinkulu, utshilo uMnu Crumb. Uba umbono omncinci apha kunye nembono encinci phaya; ngekhe wenze nantoni na ngelaphu elipheleleyo.
Indlela umhlaba wobugcisa osebenza ngayo ukwenza amaqhawe kulo mfo okanye loo mfo awunangqondo, bubuvuvu, ukuthengisa. Batsala la magcisa angamaqhawe kwimeko yawo.
Kodwa le uyenzileyo yahlukile, ndaphikisana.
Kwenzekile ukuba ndibengumfana izinto ezazicacisa kuye kodwa bekukho abantu abathile abaya kude kakhulu kunam. S. Clay Wilson umzekelo. Wenza amahlaya aphawulekayo phantsi komhlaba. Wayengumntu wokuqala kunam. Andazi ukuba wayevelaphi. Akukho namnye owakhe wenza into enje ngaphambili, kodwa wayenomdla kubantu abaninzi kunawam umsebenzi. UWilson kunzima ukuthatha. Umsebenzi wam wawunomtsalane obanzi. Ndawugcina umsebenzi wam ufundeka ngakumbi kunokwenza kukaWilson. UJustin Green yenye yezona zinto zibalaseleyo kwelo xesha lamahlaya aseMelika angaphantsi komhlaba. Kodwa inesidima ngakumbi, inobuqili kunomsebenzi wam. Kwakukho umgca omninzi, ukufundeka kwiincwadi zam ezihlekisayo kunakwabo. Kutshanje ndiye ndajonga kwingqokelela yam yamahlaya aphantsi komhlaba asemva kweminyaka yama-60's - early ‘70s. Zimbalwa kakhulu kubo ezazihambelana okanye zifundeka, inani elincinci ngokumangalisayo. Uninzi lwabazobi babekhathalele iziyobisi babengenakwenza nto ifundeke. Ngubani othengayo kwaye wazama ukufunda le shit iphambeneyo? Kodwa uWilson noGreen bema ngaphandle, babephezulu, bebalasele.
Umsebenzi wam ufikelele kubaphulaphuli abaninzi kuba bendisebenzisa indlela yesiko yokuzoba ukuthetha into eyedwa kunye ne-wacko. Ndisebenzise isitayile esiqhelekileyo, esisemgangathweni sephephandaba sokuhlekisa ukuze nditsho into ephambeneyo, ezinye izinto zobuqu ezifikelela ebantwini. Kananjalo, bendisoloko ndikwazi kakuhle ukuqhelanisa nomsebenzi wam nabaphulaphuli, ukuba mandenze ntoni kwaye ndingayenzi ukwenza ukuba ifundeke, ukuyigcina iyonwabisa.
Le yeyona ndlela ijolise kakhulu kwintengiso yomdwebi wekhathuni ongaphantsi komhlaba.
Kodwa kwakungekho malunga nokuthengisa. Kwakumalunga nokunxibelelana, waphendula. Ndisebenzisa obu buchule bekhathuni bendabuko ukunxibelelana namava am. Ukupeyinta kwakuyinto ekudala ndiyithanda kakhulu bonke ubomi bam. Kwaye yayikukuphela kwendlela endandisazi ngayo ukunxibelelana noluntu.
Ngokuqinisekileyo, ndinqwenela ukwamkelwa. Ndandinomdla. Kodwa bendifuna ukwamkelwa ngokwam. Bendingafuni ukuzoba izimvo zabo. Ndifuna ukuzoba eyam imibono, kwaye bendininzi lokujikeleza kwabo kwingqondo yam eyoyikekayo.
Ngaba udumo luchaphazele indlela osebenza ngayo?
Waphelelwa ngumzimba, waphendula watsho, kangangokuba ndaye ndazithemba ndisebenza kuphela ngaphakathi kwemida yokulindelweyo kum. Kwakunjengokuhambisa ipianos ukwenza umsebenzi, isenzo esona sikhulu sokuthanda. Uphela kwisisele esidumile.
Kungenxa yeso sizathu le nto ngoku ukhupha iifoto ngoku?
Ewe.
Iikhomikhi zakho zisebenza kuba ziyabhukuqa kwaye mhle, zithambile kwaye ziyaphambana, zimsulwa kwaye zirhabaxa.
Yile nto kanye le ithethwa ngumfazi wam uAline ngabo. Wayezama ukucacisa lo mxube kum ngenye imini, utshilo uMnu Crumb
Ezihlekisayo ozenzileyo naye Ukuzoba Kunye zilungile. Kuyamangalisa ukuba iindlela zakho ezimbini ezahlukileyo zinokubamba kakuhle.
Ewe, kodwa sithathe i-flack eninzi kulonto, abantu bebesithi ukhwele iidyasi zam. Abantu bayoyikeka nje. Ndimthiyile wonke umntu ngokulinganayo, andicaluli, utshilo.
You wayenesidalwa esiguqukayo ngaxa lithile [kwii-60s] -uFrosty the Snowman-owayejula iibhombu kwindlu enkulu yaseRockefeller. Ngaba ucinga ukuba yiyo loo nto i-IRS yeza emva kwakho kanye emva koko?
Ucinga ntoni? uthe
Ngaba wawunomdla kwiMozulu engaphantsi komhlaba ngelo xesha? Ndibuzile.
‘Ndiwathiyile kakhulu amadoda kunabafazi. ziyothusa nje. ngamadoda enza konke ukudlwengula nokuphanga,
ukubulawa kwabantu abaninzi. ’
Ngokubhekele phaya, bendinovelwano lwamaphiko asekhohlo, utshilo uMnu Crumb, kodwa uninzi lwala maqela aphiko lasekhohlo baba yimfundiso engenathemba de bafikelela kwinqanaba lokuba babe ngqongqo kwaye babe neenkani kwaye bangathandeki. Ubomi abukho lula kangako… xa abantu beqala ukutshiza imfundiso kaMarxist ngeenxa zonke, ndiphela nje. Omnye wabahlobo bam abasenyongweni, umdwebi wekhathuni waseSpain uRodriguez, wayezimisele kakhulu eMarxist, kwaye umbono wakhe wawungacacanga ngokwaneleyo kangangokuba wandinika ukucaca okukhulu malunga nokunyaniseka kweklasi. Umahluko phakathi kweenkqubo zokuxabiseka zabasebenzi kunye noohlohlesakhe befudula zicaca ngakumbi kunanamhlanje. ISpain iya kuhlala iyibuyisela kulo mahluko weklasi. Uzakulungelelanisa nabani? Ixabiso labasebenzi okanye loohlohlesakhe? Oko kwakukhanyisa kakhulu; indincede kakhulu kuba oohlohlesakhe bahlala bezama ukonakalisa elinye icala, ukulisusa. Kodwa ke wayeza kuyikhusela iSoviet Union, nkqu nabantu abanjengoJoseph Stalin. Wayedla ngokuthi uStalin usindise impucuko yaseNtshona. NguStalin owabetha amaNazi. Ngenzondelelo uStalin wenza iRussia kwaye wenza ukuba abethe amaNazi. Ukuba wayengakwenzanga oko, amaRashiya ngewayengazange abe nazo izixhobo zokubetha umkhosi waseJamani, owawusemva kwawo wonke owona mkhosi ubalaseleyo emhlabeni ngelo xesha.
Ewe kodwa impucuko yaseNtshona ivelise amaNazi kwasekuqaleni, ndamxelela.
Ewe, ngoko mhlawumbi akufanelekanga ukugcina. Ndiyamangaliswa kukuzalwa kwenguquko kwezamashishini, ixesha lama-Victorian nalo ngeli xesha lamaNazi ahlala eFrance. Uxwebhu Intlungu nosizi NguMarcel Ophuls lelinye lawona maxwebhu mabalaseleyo enziwe, abantu nje bathetha iiyure, kuyamangalisa, wonke umntu kufuneka ayibukele. AmaNazi ngewayengazange aphile ngaphandle koncedo lweebhanki ezinkulu kunye neenkampani, uninzi lwazo ingamaMelika. Ukuba iMo yezulu engaphantsi komhlaba yayiqhushumisa iibhanki ndiyinto yonke ngaloba nje bengabulalanga abantu abaninzi, utshilo uMnu Crumb.
Leyo yayiyinkolelo yabo ekuqaleni, ukuqhushumisa izakhiwo ezingenanto, ndatsho.
Kuya kufuneka nangoku siqhushumbe iibhanki zokuncancisa oomama, utshilo.
Wenze ntoni nge-Occupy Wall Street? Ndimbuzile.
Ndacinga ukuba ngumzamo ofanelekileyo, utshilo.
Ndahamba ngeZuccotti Park kwaye ezi zidenge zazifuna iibhanki 'ezilungileyo', icawa kunye neenjongo zikaThomas Jefferson.
Kubuhlungu oko. U-2008 yayikukuphanga okukhulu embalini kwaye ngubani oya ejele? Abanye abantwana abahlwempuzekileyo abamnyama abeba ezinye iiteki kwiWal-Mart ebalekayo ukuba uthe wanethamsanqa ngokwaneleyo ukuba angadutyulwa ngasemva xa esiya apho, utshilo uMnu Crumb,
Umntwana omnyama kutsha nje eNew York ugqibe eRikers Island ngokuba ubhaka. Wayengenako ukwenza isibophelelo, uhlala ezikhanyela izityholo, wahlala eRikers iminyaka nasemva kokuba ekugqibeleni ephumile, wazibulala. U-Obama, kunyaka wakhe wokugqibela e-ofisini, ekugqibeleni uyaqonda ukuba wachitha ubongameli bakhe bezama ukukholisa umlungu omthiyileyo ngokubona, akenzanga nto ukunceda abantu abamnyama.
Ewe. Uyindlu yeNegro, utshilo uCrumb.
Yile nto ithethwe ngu-Osama bin Laden ngo-Obama.
Rewe? Wowu! Bendingayazi lonto. Kwaye oonobhanki kunye nemibutho eqhubeka nokudlwengula iMelika kwaye uninzi lwamahlwempu aluvoti kwaphela, kwaye xa besenza njalo, bayaqhubeka nokuvotela ooshoti babo eofisini. Ndonwabile ukuba andisahlali apho. Khange ndibenomphathi ukusukela ngo-1967, xa ndayeka inkampani yamakhadi emibuliso. Ndingummeli okhululekileyo kwihlabathi. Amashumi asithoba anesithoba eepesenti kubemi bahlala besoyika ukuphulukana nomsebenzi. Ndibe nethamsanqa ngaloo ndlela ndikhululekile ukuthetha ngengqondo yam kwaye ndingoyiki indlela yam yokuphila, utshilo uMnu Crumb.
Ukanti, usadandathekile.
Ewe, kodwa ndenza ngcono. Intlungu yokuncamathisela, ukoyika ukulahleka-ngakumbi xa unabantwana kwaye ngoku ungabazukulwana.
Ekubuyiseleni, bekungekho mpazamo inkulu ukushiya iMelika? Ilizwi lakho lilahlekile kakhulu ngoku, ndibuze. UAline Crumb noRobert Crumb (Ifoto: Ferdaus Shamim / WireImage)
Ngaba ucinga njalo? Mnu Crumb uthe. Andiliphosi elo siko. IMelika endiyiphosileyo yafa malunga ne-1935. Kungenxa yoko le nto ndinazo zonke ezi zinto zindala, zonke ezi rekhodi zindala ezingama-78 zelo xesha. Kwakuyiminyaka yegolide yomculo orekhodiweyo, ngaphambi kokuba ishishini lomculo lifake ityhefu kumculo wabantu, ngendlela efanayo naleyo ‘ishishini lezolimo’ lafaka ityhefu kuwo kanye umhlaba. Ngemihla yakudala, umculo wawusenziwa ngabantu abaqhelekileyo, umculo bewuvelisa ukuzonwabisa. Umzi mveliso werekhodi uyithathile wayithengisa kwakhona, wayifaka kwakhona wayibulala, wayikhupha kwi-bland, eyenziweyo, uguqulelo lwayo lwe-ersatz. Oku kuhamba kunye nokunyuka kwamajelo osasazo, ukusasazeka kwerediyo. Umama, owazalwa ngoo-1920s, wakhumbula ehamba esitratweni ngexesha lasehlotyeni eFiladelfiya, nakuzo zonke ezinye izindlu, abantu babedlala uhlobo oluthile lomculo odlalayo. Abazali bakhe badlala umculo kwaye bacula kunye. Kwisizukulwana sakhe, abantakwabo babengasafuni ukudlala isixhobo kwakhona. Kwakuyixesha lokuguquka kwaye konke ababefuna ukukwenza yayikukumamela uBenny Goodman kunomathotholo. Ukuthatha irediyo kwenzeka kamva kakhulu. Kwiindawo ezinjengeAfrika, usenokufumana umculo omnandi orekhodiweyo ukusukela kwiminyaka yoo-50s. Ndinama-78s amaninzi asuka e-Afrika ngeloxesha evakala njengomculo othile wasemaphandleni omnandi ovela eMelika pha kwi-20s. E-US ngelo xesha kwakukho amawaka namawaka eebhendi, iiholo zokudanisa, amagumbi okudlala ibhola kwiihotele, iivenkile zokutyela zazinemigangatho yokudanisa, iiholo zesikolo, iiklabhu kwiidolophu ezincinci. Idolophu encinci ye-10,000 inokuba neebhendi ezilikhulu ubuncinci. Kwi-30 yerediyo yasasazeka ngokukhawuleza eMelika kwaye ukudakumba kwabulala iindawo ezininzi ezazisenziwa umculo ophilayo. Ungaya kwimiboniso bhanyabhanya ngeesenti ezili-10. Ke kwi-TV ye-50 wayigqiba yonke into. Imithombo yeendaba yobuninzi ikwenza uhlale ekhaya, ungenzi nto. Kwiminyaka engama-20 kwakukho umculo obukhoma kuyo yonke indawo eMelika. Ndathetha neemvumi ezindala ezazidlala kumaqela okudanisa. Le mvumi indala ibhendi uJack Coackley eSan Francisco wandixelela ukuba ngo 1928 xa wawusiya edolophini ngokuhlwa emotweni yetroli uyokudlala kwibala lebhola, izitrato zazizele ziimvumi eziya emsebenzini, ziphethe izixhobo kwiimeko. Kwenzeka into enye nase-France ngokusweleka kwe-musette, umculo wokudanisa odumileyo wabasebenzi. Akuzange kubekho umculo othandwayo onesidima eMelika ixesha elide.
Umculo wangoku we-pop kwihlabathi laseNtshona uyinto nje eyoyikisayo. IMelika kudala yahamba. I-80s indibulele yona. Ixesha likaReagan, uGawulayo. Kwakuyiminyaka elishumi eyoyikisayo.
Ndicinga eyakho Incwadi yeGenesis ngowona msebenzi uphazamisayo ungathandabuzekiyo novukelo ukuza kuthi ga ngoku, ndatsho. Uyichazile nje kwaye uvumele ubudenge bayo buthethe ngokwayo. Awukhange uzalise nayiphi na kuyo, khange ukongeze nto kuyo, bonisa nje.
Ha, unyanisile, utshilo uMnu Crumb. Yeyona ncwadi inkulu yokuthengisa endakha ndayenza. Ndenze imali eninzi ngayo. ’Cabanga ukuba kutheni? YiBhayibhile! Ngubani owaziyo? Ngokuqinisekileyo bendingayilindelanga impumelelo enjalo. Inyaniso yokuba andizange ndihlekise ngayo okanye ndiyigcwalise, kodwa endaweni yoko ndenza ngokuthe ngqo umsebenzi womzekeliso kunokwenzeka ukuba inguqulelo yam inokusetyenziswa ithiyori kwiiklasi 'zokufunda iBhayibhile'. Kodwa bangayifunda njani ingxelo yam ebonisiweyo kwaye bangaboni ukuba kuphambene kangakanani ukusebenzisa le ncwadi njengomthombo wesikhokelo sokuziphatha okanye sokomoya? Mhlawumbi ootitshala baya kuyiphosa loo nto kwaye bayinike abantwana babo ukubakhuthaza ukuba bafunde iBhayibhile. Ke mhlawumbi iya kuba nesiphumo sokubhukuqa. Iya kuba yinto engaqhelekanga. Nabani na osengqondweni yakhe eyiyo oyifundayo angayiqonda indlela engaqhelekanga ngayo iBhayibhile kwaye abanye abantu bayayisebenzisa ukwazisa abantwana babo kwiLizwi eliLungileyo okanye kwizifundo zeBhayibhile. Yiyo iMelika yakho.
