UMichaela Coel, ujikelezwe yimibono yomlinganiswa awudlalayo kumdlalo wakhe Ndingakonakalisa -Inokuba ngumboniso kamabonwakude okrelekrele ka-2020.UDave Benett / imifanekiso kaFetty yeeMagazini zeNtliziyo; HBO Ukuba kukho inkwenkwezi enye ye-2020, kufuneka ibe nguMichaela Coel. Umlingisi waseGhana-waseBritane kunye nothotho lwamva nje lombhali Ndingakonakalisa , i-HBO kunye ne-BBC show groundbreaking, ehlola ukudlwengulwa, iziphumo zayo, ukusetyenziswa kakubi kweziyobisi, ubudlelwane obude obude, imidiya yoluntu, ukuthandana kunye ne-pizza.
Ivakala ngathi bubomi be-pre-COVID-19 kwabanye bethu. Kodwa kolu hambo, iyavakala kuba yinto ayibhalileyo, eneenkwenkwezi kuyo, ekhokelwa ngokudibeneyo kunye nolawulo oluphezulu, kwaye ngokusisiseko, wayenolawulo lokuxela. Kancinci nje Uqeqesho yewaka leminyaka, iqala njenge-romp ye-neon-hued kubomi bobusuku baseLondon, njengoko uCoel esebenza njengo-Arabella, inkwenkwezi ye-Twitter yajika umbhali wencwadi osokolayo ukuhlangabezana nexesha lakhe elimiselweyo. Ngobunye ubusuku, wenza itheko kwi-bender ubusuku bonke ejika ibe liphupha elibi emva kokuba isiselo sakhe siphekiweyo kwaye wadlwengulwa, edibanisa umkhondo ngentsasa elandelayo. Ibeka ibali eline-labyrinthine enomoya omde malunga nemvume, imidiya yoluntu, inkcubeko yolutsha kunye nokuthetha, ngaphandle kokuxhatshazwa ngamajelo eendaba awasebenzisayo ukubalisa ibali lakhe.
UCoel wangena kwindawo ebonakalayo ngo-2013, eneenkwenkwezi kunye nokubhala kumdlalo wakhe, Ukuhlafuna amaphupha eentsini , owathi waba yindawo yase-Bhritane (i-E4) ye-sitcom kwi-2015, kwaye wathi xa sele eza kuqala ukudlala neNetflix, wasilahla isivumelwano se- $ 1m emva kokuba bemkhanyele ilungelo lobunikazi lomsebenzi wakhe (nangona wayesadlala kwiNetflix. uqobo, njenge Isibuko esimnyama , Ukunyuka koMhlaba oMnyama kwaye Kude kakhulu ). UCoel uthethe ngoZoom ekhayeni lakhe eLondon malunga neziyobisi ze-Instagram, ii-podcast zakhe azithandayo kwaye kutheni eqhubeka nokuzonwabisa-kwaye evuka kuyo.
Umbonisi: Uziva njani ngempumelelo yalo mboniso?
UMichaela Coel: Kuninzi. Ngamanye amaxesha ndiye ndilile iinyembezi zovuyo. Xa ndifunda Ibali leqweqwe likaE. Alex Jung malunga nam eXhalweni, ndatshatyalaliswa. Kwakuninzi. Yoyikeka, intle, intloko yajikeleza. Bekuchukumisa. Ndiva, nangona kuvakala njengegama nje, ndiziva ndinombulelo. Ndizukisiwe ukuze ndikwazi ukubonisa oku ebantwini ngeli xesha.
Akuzange kubonakale nje kwisitya sesilivere, uhambe ngobuchule obuninzi kwaye ubuqu ukuza kufika kweli nqanaba. Uziva njani ekugqibeleni xa uphathwa ngokufanelekileyo ngentsebenziswano yakho ne-BBC kunye ne-HBO?
Kuziva kumnandi kwaye ndonwabile ngalo lonke ukhetho endilwenzileyo kuba lundifundise okuninzi. Ndinombulelo ngokusebenza noSam Miller, ukubona indlela awuqhube ngayo lo mboniso. Uzolile, uziphethe kakuhle, uyalinganiswa, andikaze ndimbone enexinzelelo. Wayeya kuhleka kuba wayejolise kakhulu ebalini. Wayengadinwa okanye elele emsebenzini. Uvuthuza ingqondo yam. Bendifuna ukuyenza njengaye. Ndinethamsanqa. Ukuba lapho ndikhoyo ngoku.
Ndihlala ndicinga ngale nto: Liliphi ilifa ofuna ukulishiya ngasemva?
Isiqendu sesi-7 sithetha ngokuxhaphaza-iyinyani njani le nto kubadali abaMnyama namhlanje?
Ewe, kuba iya kushiya amagcisa eziva iintlungu, iintloni nokuzisola, ngokusekwe kumava kunye nokukhetha abaye bakwenza. Ndihlala ndicinga ngale nto: Liliphi ilifa ofuna ukulishiya ngasemva? Ukusuka ekubhaleni kwakho, kwimveliso yakho, kufutshane, ufuna ukushiya abasebenzi kunye nabadlali xa becinga ngawe, kwakunjani ukusebenza nawe? Ufuna ukubashiya njani? Yiyiphi incasa ofuna ukuyishiya emlonyeni wabo? Ndicinga ukuba kubalulekile kwaye lixesha lokuba wonke umntu acinge ngale nto.
Ndiyaphakama ndiphakame, ndiyeke phezulu kwaye ndiphakame, ndiphindaphinde, uMichaela Coel uxelele uMqwalaseli. Apha udlala u-Arabella Ndingakonakalisa .HBO
Yimalini esiyibonayo kwiscreen nguwe?
Into enethamsanqa kukuba ndenze umlinganiswa oyintsomi, ke bekungafuneki ukuba ndizidlale. Bekuya kuba yinto engaqhelekanga ukudlala kum. Inokundikhubekisa loo nto. Ndiyigoba imigaqo yenyani kunye neentsomi ngokwaneleyo njengoko injalo, ngekhe kube yinto engaqhelekanga. Nangona sidityanisiwe kakhulu, kukho imithetho emincinci apho indikhumbuza ngokwahlukileyo.
Ukuba isekwe kwibali eliyinyani, ngaba abantu abamele umboniso sele beyibonile?
Ndisebenze nabacebisi bamabali, kwaye sasicacisa malunga noku. Uninzi lwazo ziintsomi. Nkqu nabalinganiswa kukudityaniswa kwabantu abahlanu abahlukeneyo. U-Arabella ngumxube wabantu abahlanu, okanye kunjalo. Amalungu osapho ayingxubevange yabantu, nawo. Ngokunjalo nabahlobo. Ayisekelwanga nakubani na.
Ngaba uyi-podcaster enkulu, kubomi bokwenyani? (U-Arabella umamele ipodcast ngumzuzu obalulekileyo kwi Ndingakonakalisa .)
Oh ewe. Ndiphulaphule Ulonwabo kwiLebhu , Ubungqina obufihliweyo , kutshanje phantsi kokutshixwa kweqhosha, ndikonwabele kakhulu Umvundla Hole . Ndiyakuthanda I-99 Cent engabonakaliyo , Iindinyana zeSayensi, zikaEsther Perel ’ Siqala Phi . Ndingene ngokwenene kwii-podcast…. I-algorithms zam kwiipodcast zam zisebenza kakuhle kum, ewe. Banika ukwahluka, ubuqhetseba, bandinika into endiyifunayo.
Njengomthambo weminyaka eliwaka kunye nedijithali, ngaba umkhulu kwimidiya yoluntu?
Ngokuqinisekileyo ndinguye loo mntu, ewe. Ndicinga ukuba into ebinethamsanqa kum kukuba kufuneka ndibhale lo mboniso. Ndabona ukuba ndisokola ukugxila emsebenzini wam nasekugqibeni iiprojekthi zam. Kwacaca kum uba ndizokwenza le projekthi, kuzofuneka ndohlukane nemithombo yeendaba zentlalo ndishiye. Ndicime i-app ye-Instagram kwaye ndazifumana ndithatha ifowuni yam ndaskrola, ndacinga, Umzimba wam ujonge usetyenziso olungasekho kwiscreen sam. Yayingene kwimisipha yam yangena kum. Ndingumntu, khange ndihlale ndinayo lento. Kufuneka sime kwaye sijonge ukuba yintoni isihogo. Kukukhangela okungazi nto. Ingqondo yam ibuhlungu. Ndifuna ukuba nobudlelwane kunye nefowuni yam apho ndingumlawuli wobuzwilakhe kuyo, hayi ngenye indlela. Ndibe nexesha elimnandi kwimidiya yoluntu, kwaye bendinexesha elimnandi kuyo, kodwa njengeziyobisi, kuya kufuneka ulinganisele.
Ngaba ifana ne-detox yemidiya yoluntu?
Ewe, kufana nokuba mhlawumbi ikhefu, mhlawumbi konke oku kuthelekiswa kwentlalo kundenza ndizive ngathi andonelanga. Kubuhlungu. Kwaye bekusenzeka iminyaka, ukusukela oko saba nezikrini zeTV, sithengisa iimveliso kwintengiso, ezenza ukuba ucinge, Nam ndifuna ukuba njalo. Ndicinga nje ukuba kufuneka simodareyithe, kuba kwimidiya yoluntu, ujongeka kwaye ucinga, Ndifuna ukuba njalo. Ndicinga nje ukuba kufuneka simodareyithe, njengakwimithombo yeendaba zentlalo, loo mvakalelo iyaqina. Kukurhafisa ukungaqiniseki kwethu. Ndicinga ukuba kunzima.
Utshilo ngaphambili Umabonwakude akaxoleli , usaziva njalo?
Ndiyazibuza ukuba yinto yokuzixolela. Umabonwakude unokuziva ungaxoleli xa uzibandakanya nendlela abantu abavakalelwa ngayo ngawe. Kodwa ungayikhupha kwaye wenze nantoni na oyifunayo ngokwakho. Yeka ukuzibandakanya, ngokwenene. Ingxelo engaphaya kweqela lakho, ababhali bakho beempendulo, abavelisi bakho abaphezulu, kulapho umsebenzi ukhona. Ngaphandle koko, yenza nje kwaye ungajongi nokuxolelwa kwiTV. Yeka ukujonga apho.
Ufunde njani ukuzixolela?
Ndicinga ukuba yinkqubo yemihla ngemihla. Ndiyaphakama ndiphakame, ndiyeke phezulu ndiphakame, ndiphindaphinde.
Olu dliwanondlebe luhlelelwe ukucaciswa.
