Ukutya komnini wePersia NYC kunye nompheki uSaeed Pourkay kwindawo yakhe encinci yokulinganisa ngaphakathi ePizza Paradise kwi-18th Street eManhattan.UNina Roberts Iipizili ezibengezelayo ezikhanyiswe sisilayidi zizinto ezisisiseko zedolophu ezibonisa zonke izixeko zeSixeko saseNew York. Enye i-pizzeria, nangona kunjalo, iPizza Paradise kwindawo yaseManhattan yaseFlatiron, inekona eyahlukileyo. U-Saeed Pourkay, ovela e-Iran, ulungiselela ikhaya lakhe isuphu ephekiweyo kunye ne-stews kubathengi abenza umgca kwikona ye-minuscule counter counter ngaphakathi kwepizzeria.
U-Pourkay, onetyuwa eyaziwayo kunye nepelepele kwaye unike ibhatyi ebomvu ebomvu, wavula Ukutya kwePersia NYC , kwiminyaka emithandathu eyadlulayo. Ilizwi lisasazekile phakathi kwabathandi bokutya baseIran, iigourmands kunye nabo bathanda amava okutya angaqhelekanga. Isithuba sePourkey sixinene kodwa sanele ngokwaneleyo ukufaka iiseva zesuphu ezingenasici, izitya ezishushu kunye nabapheki belayisi. Abathengi banokuthatha ukutya kwabo ukuya okanye batye ngeefolokhwe zeplastikhi kungekho tafile zefrills phakathi kwabathengi be-pizzeria.
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Ukutya kwePersia i-NYC sisidlo sasemini kunye nendawo yokutya kwasekuqaleni; imenyu yayo encinci ebhalwe kwibhodi emhlophe iyatshintsha yonke imihla. Izitya ezijikeleziswayo zinokubandakanya i-lamb abgoosht, okanye i-ghormeh sabzi, isitshixo semifuno egalelwe inyama yenkomo okanye yegusha, phakathi kwabanye. Iiklasikhi ezinjenge-ash reshteh-isuphu etyebileyo yemifuno ye-noodle eneembotyi ezifakwe iminti eqhotsiweyo, itswele le-caramel kunye negalikhi, kunye nokujikeleza kwesosi emhlophe, ebizwa ngokuba yi-kashk-zihlala zihlala zikhona.
Emva kweziganeko zokupheka iifoto zangaphambili, ezinje ngeetreyi ze-okra eluhlaza ngaphambi kokutyiwa, zihlala zifumaneka Ukutya kwephepha le-Facebook lasePersia NYC ; Zonke izitya zilungisiwe ekhitshini elingasemva le-pizzeria.
Oko kuvulwa, uPourkay ufumene igama lokupheka. Ukunambitha uphononongo lwePersia NYC kunye nokubhala ukusuka INew York Times kwaye Inew York Iphephancwadi, phakathi kwezinye iimpapasho, lincanyathiselwe ngokuzingca kwifestile engaphambili kwivenkile ejonge kwisitalato i-18.
Kodwa impumelelo kwezorhwebo kaPourkay yayingeyondlela ilula okanye ethe tye. Phakathi kwabathengi kunye nokupheka, uPourkay uchaze indlela awasungula ngayo kwaye waqhuba ishishini lokuzoba kunye nokushicilela nabantakwabo phantse iminyaka engama-30, wazama ishishini lemveliso eluhlaza engaphumelelanga kwaye yakhokelela kwiinyanga ezilithoba zokungabi namakhaya kwaye, okokugqibela, indlela abebeshishina ngayo abamelwane yamnceda ukumilisela ukungcamla kwePersia NYC.
Ngoobani ukungcamla kwabathengi basePersia NYC? Ngaba bangabantu baseIran okanye abanemvelaphi yaseIran?
Uninzi lwabantu base-Irani, kodwa uninzi lwamaMelika. Abasebenzi abamelwane beza kwisidlo sasemini, kwaye iya isiba, andifuni ukuthi, ngumtsalane wabakhenkethi. Ndifumana abathengi abavela kulo lonke elaseMelika, eSan Francisco, L.A., naseJapan, e-Australia… Ukuba bevile ngam, bafuna ukuza bazokutya.
Ndiqaphele ukuba unika iisampulu ezininzi kubantu abaza kungena.
Abanye abantu abakaze bazame ukutya kwamaPersi, akufani nokutya kwaseTshayina okwaziwa ngumntu wonke. Ndifumene eyona ndlela yokwazisa ukutya kwethu kukuvumela ukuba bazame kancinci. Ukuba ndinexesha, ndinika iisampulu ezintlanu okanye ezintandathu, bayakhetha.
Ngaba abantu bayothuka xa befumana ukutya kwaseIran kusenziwa ipizzeria?
Hayi, wonke umntu uthi, Kukho ubutyebi obufihliweyo kwikona ye-pizzeria. Ukuba ujonga uphononongo, bathi kokona kutya kulungileyo kwasePersi eNew York, indlela umakhulu okanye umama wakho ayenza ngayo. Ndixelela abantu, ayisiyondawo intle, andinawo umlungiseleli wokukuphakela, yiyo loo nto besiza apha.
Ndenza konke ukutya kuloo ndawo incinci [yalatha ekhitshini] kwaye inomdla ebantwini. Baza apha, bayonwabile, bayacebisa, bathathe iifoto kwaye bazithumele [kwimidiya yoluntu], yindlela ekhule ngayo ishishini lam.
Ngaba wenza nayiphi na intengiso okanye ligama lomlomo?
Yonke into yomlomo. Xa kufikwa ekutyeni, iNew York sisixeko esincinci kwaye igama lihamba ngokukhawuleza okukhulu. Awunakhohlisa nabani na xa kufikwa kumba wokungcamla; isigwebo sakho sisigwebo sakho.
Zeziphi izitya ezidumileyo?
I-Ash reshteh, yona isuphu yemifuno ye-noodle, i-fesenjān, eyinkukhu yenkukhu yomrharnate, ilunge kakhulu. Kwaye kebabs.
Ufike kuqala e-US kwi-1978, ngaba kungenxa yoHlaziyo lwase-Iranian?
Kwakungenanto yakwenza novukelo; Ndize kunyaka ongaphambi kwalowo. Ndifunde ubugcisa kodwa ekugqibeleni ndayeka ukuvula indlu yemizobo nabantakwethu. Njengokuba ishishini lalikhula, safudukela esixekweni sisuka eNew Jersey, ngaphesheya kwesitalato i-18. Ngaxesha lithile, sasinemigangatho emithathu, 40, 45 abayili bemizobo. Iiarhente zentengiso yayingoyena mxhasi wethu uphambili, kodwa senza yonke into. UDavid Bowie wayedla ngokunika imifanekiso yakhe yobuntwana kuthi ukuba siyenze kwakhona.
Ubaleke ngokushishina ngemizobo, ngoku ungumnikazi kwaye uqhuba ukungcamla kwePersia NYC ngaphaya kwesitalato. Kweneke ntoni?
Kwiminyaka elishumi elinambini eyadlulayo, abazalwana bam bandithenga; Ndithathe isigqibo sokwenza into endiyithandayo. Kodwa ndahamba nexesha elinzima kakhulu ukuya kwinqanaba lokuba andinakhaya. Yonke imali abandinike yona, ndiyonakalisile, ngokwenza utyalo-mali olubi.
Kwimarike yemasheya?
Hayi, kwiimveliso eziluhlaza-izibane ezingxamisekileyo, unomathotholo, iingxowa ezenziwe ngephepha elenziwe ngokutsha. Ndahamba umhlaba iminyaka eliqela, uhlobo lohambo lweshishini, kodwa kwangaxeshanye, ndandizonwabisa — ndisiya eChina, eJapan, eMzantsi Merika. Ndenze utyalomali, ebezingalunganga.
Ndifumene uqhawulo-mtshato kwaye ukubuyela kwam eNew York, bendingenandawo yokuhlala. Akukho mali yokurenta. Umhlobo wayenendawo yokugcina impahla eBrooklyn Navy Yard. Ndilele apho, phakathi kweebhokisi ezingena zivela e-China, zihamba ngo-5 ekuseni, ndibuya ngo-10. Ndahlala apho iinyanga ezisithoba okanye ezili-10, abantwana bam babengazi nokuba andinakhaya. Ndiqonde ukuba kufuneka ndenze into.
Ngaba awufuni ukubuyela kwishishini lemizobo?
Hayi, hayi, ayizange inomdla kum. Kungenxa yoko ndaye ndagqiba kwelokuba ndenze into eyahlukileyo, ephekayo. Bendihlala ndikuthanda ukupheka; Ndancedisa umama ukupheka ndisengumntwana. Ukuqala kwam ukuthengisa ishishini lam lemizobo, ndaya eTehran ukuya kutyelela usapho lwam olubanzi. Bendihamba nabo ndiye kuthenga izinto ezincedisayo emva koko ndiye ekhitshini ndiye kupheka ngazo.
Ukuzonwabisa? Okanye kuhlobo oluthile loqeqesho nangona ubutyala imali kwiimveliso eziluhlaza ngelo xesha?
Ukuzonwabisa. Kodwa kwangaxeshanye, bendiceba ukwenza into enokutya kodwa bendisoyika ukukwenza.
Ke ekugqibeleni utshintshe njani ukungabi namakhaya ukuya ekuvuleni ukungcamla kwePersia NYC?
Ndaya kuLawulo lweMimandla yeDolophu, baphatha yonke imiboniso yesitalato. Babendazi, kwaye bandinika indawo kwi-Union Square Christmas Market, ngetyala, ukuba ndithengise iisuphu zam. Kwakukho umgca wesuphu yam; Ndenza imali kwaye ndandinokuyibuyisa. Iintatheli zivela kwi-BBC, iLizwi laseMelika nakwezinye iindawo.
Ke uphelele njani kwikona yePizza Paradise, iibhloko ezimbalwa kude?
Emva kweMarike yeKrisimesi yesibini, imigca yayide, abantu bahlala bendibuza ukuba ndizokuthengisa phi iisuphu kunye nokutya. Bendimazi umnini wale venkile ye-pizza, ungowaseLebhanon kwaye ndingumthengi wakhe phantse iminyaka eli-10 kuba umsebenzi wam wokushicilela wawungaphaya kwesitalato. Ndicelile ukuba ndingayiqesha na indawo esekoneni, wandinika ngovuyo. Abamelwane kwesi sitrato, nabo babendazi, bandinceda ukuthenga ifriji, ifriji, izixhobo. Nje ukuba ndenze imali, bendibabhatala.
Ukwanelisa neziganeko?
Ndiye ndalungiselela iziganeko zeUN amaxesha amaninzi. Kwiinyanga ezine ezidlulileyo ndikhathalele umsitho wethu [waseIran] woNyaka oMtsha [Nowruz], abantu abangama-400 ukuya kuma-500, kwiofisi kasodolophu. Ndilungiselela i-CNN International kunye noFareed Zakaria, iqela lonke. Bathi, Sahamba saya eIran saza satya into esingasokuze siyilibale. Bayichaza, kwaye yi-abgoosht, isitya segusha, endisenzayo.
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