UWillem Dafoe ubalasele kwifilimu yamva nje u-Abel Ferrara, UTomas .Ifoto: Andreas Rentz / Getty Izithombe; isaqhubeka ngoncedo lweKino Lorber Umlingisi waseMelika uWillem Dafoe usefowunini evela eRoma, apho ebehlaliswe yedwa kwiinyanga ezimbalwa ezidlulileyo (imithetho yase-Italiya ingqongqo, utsho), ebukele iimuvi kunye nenkosikazi yakhe (uGiada Colagrande), bepheka, befunda kwaye befunda isiTaliyane.
Akukude kakhulu kwindima yakhe UTomas , Ifilimu yakhe yamva nje kwiithiyetha ezibonakalayo namhlanje IKino Marquee . Ekhokelwa ngu-Abel Ferrara, kulandela uDafoe, waseMelika ohlala eRoma kunye nenkosikazi yakhe encinci kunye nentombi yakhe, bezama ukuyigcina kunye xa bejongene nexhala.
Kwi UTomas , kukho into eyoyikisayo ukufana nobomi bukaFerrera, ibenza ukuba ibe semi-autobiographical. Nokuba umntu ongamaziyo: Umlawuli waphosa inkosikazi yakhe kunye nentombi yakhe ukuba badlale ngokwabo-njengomfazi nentombi- kunye noDafoe (okwenyani, engummelwane wakhe eRoma). Ngubani owaziyo? Uninzi lwefilimu lwaphuculwa. Abalingisi nabo, banabalingisi, ukusuka kutitshala wase-Italiya wasekhaya ukuya kwindoda engenakhaya.
UDafoe akangomntu ongaziwayo kwindima ezithwele ngokwasemphefumlweni, owaziwayo ngokudlala uVincent Van Gogh, otyholwayo Umchasi-Kristu nanjengoYesu kuMartin Scorsese Ukulingwa kokugqibela kukaKristu . Unokuba ngoyena uphambili kwiifilimu nguWes Anderson, uLars von Trier noRobert Eggers, kodwa ebekhe wanekhono lomsebenzi emva kwexesha Indlu yesibane , KwiSango eliNgunaphakade , Umama waseBrooklyn ongenamama kwaye Iprojekthi yaseFlorida .
UDafoe, owahlula ixesha lakhe phakathi kweRome neNew York, uzakuba kwifilimu yee-Eggers ezayo Northman, Guillermo del Toro's I-Nightmare Alley kwaye oku kuwa, Anderson Ukuhanjiswa kwesiFrentshi . Wathetha e-Roma malunga neyoga, abo bangengabo abadlali kunye noko akufundayo. 
Kwi UTomas , UDafoe udlala indawo yokuma komlawuli u-Abel Ferrara, osebenza kunye nenkosikazi yokwenene yomlawuli uCristina Chiriac kunye nentombi eneminyaka emithathu ubudala u-Anna Ferrara.UKino Lorber
Umbonisi: Injani iRoma, ngoku iqala ukuvula kwakhona?
UWillem Dafoe: Izinto ziqala ukuvuleka, kodwa kusekho ukudideka kwezentlalo, abantu banxibe iimaski ngaphakathi. Kukho imigaqo ekhethekileyo, kodwa abantu banethemba ngakumbi ngekamva.
Uhlale njani uxakekile kukuvalelwa wedwa?
BendikwiMississippi ndisenza ifilimu nayo UPaul Schrader ( Ikhadi lokubala ), emva koko yavalwa ngenxa yobhubhane. Ndaya kwisiXeko saseNew York, ndagqiba, nangona yayilinyathelo eliphikisayo ngeloxesha-kuba i-Itali yayikwindawo enzima-ukubuyela e-Roma. Kwandinyanzela ukuba ndiyeke ukwenza yonke into, ndanikwa ixesha elimnandi nomfazi wam, ndipheka, ndibukela imovie, ndifunda. Ngoku, ndinomdla wokubuyela emsebenzini.
Ngaba wenze i-ashtanga yoga eninzi?
Ndihlala ndiyenza i-yoga, akukho nto intsha apho. Obo bubomi bam.
Ngaba wenza i-yoga kwifilimu, naye?
Ewe, kwaye ndandineemvakalelo ezixubeneyo ngayo, kodwa yayikukunika umbono wokuba uTommaso ungumfana onomsebenzi wokomoya. Uninzi lwale movie ayibobomi bethu, kodwa ijongana nezinto esizaziyo. Njengoko besisenza, ubuninzi bayo bebuphuculwe, besizama ukufumana into. Sasingenalo nofifi lokuba ngubani lo mntu, okanye uza kuya phi, kodwa sasijongana nezinto esasiqhelene nazo, ke ngoko kwakukho igunya elikhulu ekuzenziseni.
Intoni? Ingakanani ifilimu ephuculweyo?
Phantse yonke into yaphuculwa. Eyona nto yayingeyiyo, yayiyimiboniso emnandi. Indlela esebenza ngayo yayinguAbel wathi ufuna iminyhadala ethile awayeyifuna kwifilimu. Kodwa uninzi lwamaxesha, wayevele andixelele ibali, umzekelo, ibali lakhe kwintlanganiso ye-AA, kwaye ndazama ukulikhumbula, ukubuyela emva kwalo, ndilicinge, kwaye yile nto ikwi-movie. Uyazi?
Ngaba intlanganiso engaziwayo yoTywala yadlalwa ngabadlali okanye ngabadlali?
Kwakukho abadlali abathile, kodwa ubukhulu becala, abantu abaninzi kwifilimu babengengabo abadlali. Babengabantu abaqhelekileyo esibaziyo. Okanye benza into abayenzayo; Utitshala wase-Italiyane ungutitshala wase-Italiya, ngokufanayo nendoda engenakhaya kwifilimu. Akanakhaya.
Ngaba iyawatshintsha amava okuba usetelwe wena?
Ngalo lonke ixesha usebenza, uhlala usenza inkqubo efanelekileyo kwifilimu. Kodwa ngamanye amaxesha, awazi nokuba yintoni leyo. Xa usebenza nabantu abangadlaliyo, banokukhululeka kakhulu kwaye abanakulawulwa, ke kuya kufuneka ukhululeke. Konke abazama ukukwenza kukuphila. Xa utitshala wase-Italiya efundisa, kuya kufuneka ndigoqe umhlaba wakhe. Olo hlobo lokungakwazi ukulawula into lunokuba lunomdla, ngakumbi xa usenza ngcono, kuba inokuhamba indawo obungayilindelanga. Unokumangaliswa. Okuninzi.
Njani isiTaliyane sakho kunjalo?
Kungcono ngoku. Ngexesha lokuvalelwa ndedwa, ndandinezifundo ezininzi zase-Italiya. Kunzima, nokuba uthetha isiTaliyane esibi, uyaphucula, wenza konke okusemandleni akho. Kukubonakalisa ukuba ngubani na umlinganiswa. Andisatyibilizi nangoku. Yinto endisebenza kuyo ngalo lonke ixesha. Inxalenye yokuba ngumphambukeli. 
UTomas Imalunga nomntu ozama ukudibanisa nezinto zakhe zangaphambili njengoko ezinza ebomini bakhe obutsha.UKino Lorber
Into ehlekisayo kukuba u-Abel ngenene ngummelwane wakho.
Ngaphezulu okanye ngaphantsi, sihlala kufutshane kakhulu komnye nomnye. Singabantu abahluke kakhulu, kodwa siyonwabela ukuba kunye. Ndiyayithanda into yokuba aziqalele ngokwakhe, ndinguthixo womntwana wakhe, kukho uluntu apha, sobabini singabaphambukeli sizama ukuqhubeka nokwenza umsebenzi. Kukho into ephilayo kwaye ekhaya malunga naloo nto.
Andikwazi ukucinga ukwenza ngaphandle kunye nomfazi wommelwane wakho kwikhamera? Okanye ngaba yinto ogqitha kuyo?
Ewe uyayazi imigaqo. Uzama ukuncedana, niyadlala make believe, injalo. Kukusondelelana okunento yokwenza nokuzama ukwenza into. Ngomgama omncinci, kunokubonakala kungaqhelekanga, kodwa ndikhululekile naye kuba bendimazi okomzuzwana.
Ufunda eyiphi incwadi ngoku?
Uya kuhleka. Yinto endiyifundileyo amaxesha amaninzi, igqibelele kakhulu. Nguwo Ubulumko bokungazithembi: Umyalezo wobudala bexhala Ngu-Alan Watts. Wayengumfundisi-ntsapho, umphathiswa, emva koko wafunda ifilosofi yaseMpuma kunye nenkolo, ithetha kamnandi ngezo zinto. Ndiyayithanda kakhulu.
UTomas iyafumaneka kwii-cinema ezibonakalayo namhlanje, nge-5 kaJuni.
